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08-12-2017, 08:53 AM
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Guru
City: Marion, Massachusetts
Vessel Name: Wanderer
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Sep 2016
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Fender Boards
My Pilgrim 40 came with two 2x10 fender boards.
Seems undersize for a blow. When I was the Wharfinger on Cuttyhunk I made fender boards with 4 feet of 3x8 fir dock decking (not pressure treated in those days).
Five feet of pot warp at each end and I was in business for a good NorEaster. which really beat those outside boats into the dock.)
So I was thinking finding some fir 3x8 or oak 2x8. Thoughts? Be most interested in "fails."
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08-12-2017, 09:04 AM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
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You might be surprised that pressure treated yellow pine has essentially the same strength as oak. That is what I would use, and a heck of a lot cheaper than oak.
David
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08-12-2017, 09:50 AM
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Guru
City: Marion, Massachusetts
Vessel Name: Wanderer
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
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Well Southern Yellow pine is certainly strong, but something happens to it during the pressure treatment process. Sometimes the pilings I dealt with would snap.
I can get oak from a local sawmill, and I like the way it bends without breaking (The f(psi) figure I have for white oak is 15,200 for a clear specimen.)
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08-12-2017, 02:45 PM
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City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Mine are 2x6 hemlock that I picked up at the local Lowe's. I've used them a couple of times but never in a strong blow. They seem to work just fine.
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08-12-2017, 03:00 PM
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City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
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Oak only bends w/o breaking when it's green and large bends when it's green and steamed.
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08-12-2017, 04:37 PM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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An alternative to fender boards is very long fenders to be hung horizontally and serve the same as boards would. Also, there are different shapes, just as flat. The negative of that as an alternative is they do become very expensive.
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08-12-2017, 05:28 PM
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City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Lot to be said for Polyform F-8 fenders (15" × 58") horizontally tucked under the rub rail. Equally good on a piling, a dock, or rafting up.
Ted
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08-12-2017, 05:39 PM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Lot to be said for Polyform F-8 fenders (15" × 58") horizontally tucked under the rub rail. Equally good on a piling, a dock, or rafting up.
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And you can get them up to 20' long if that's what you want, but several shorter ones along the side work well and much better to deal with than a board. Store easier.
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08-12-2017, 05:47 PM
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City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Lot to be said for Polyform F-8 fenders (15" × 58") horizontally tucked under the rub rail. Equally good on a piling, a dock, or rafting up.
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Ted
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And you can get them up to 20' long if that's what you want, but several shorter ones along the side work well and much better to deal with than a board. Store easier.
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08-12-2017, 07:51 PM
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City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BandB
And you can get them up to 20' long if that's what you want, but several shorter ones along the side work well and much better to deal with than a board. Store easier.
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You can make your Trawler into a very large RIB with those. Then you will never need fenders again.
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08-12-2017, 09:01 PM
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Guru
City: Adelaide
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
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I built a 2 x 10 fender board out of a local hardwood (Grey Box), from a tree that fell in the backyard. Very strong, hard, and dense; I thought I'd check to make sure it floats. I slowly lowered it into the water holding on to an attached line, and it sunk like a stone. I just have to make sure I don't drop it overboard.
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08-13-2017, 08:18 AM
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Senior Member
City: Cape Coral, Fl
Vessel Name: Panacea
Vessel Model: Novatec 42 Sundeck Trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 163
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PVC pipe
This works for me
Much better than flat fender boards in a big blow if not in a slip
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08-13-2017, 09:20 AM
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City: Cleveland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panacea123
This works for me
Much better than flat fender boards in a big blow if not in a slip
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Nice! What size pipe did you use?
Cheers.
H.
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08-13-2017, 03:06 PM
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Senior Member
City: Cape Coral, Fl
Vessel Name: Panacea
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hfoster
Nice! What size pipe did you use?
Cheers.
H.
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4 inch
Were on the boat when I bought it
Never used fender boards before, always frustrated with the fenders shifting around pillings. These work great. Only use them when not in a slip where I can't cross tie. Pic is at my home where I keep my boat.
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08-13-2017, 04:45 PM
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City: Ft Pierce
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I sometimes just tie 2 fenders together real tight.
The piling stays in the skinny part between fenders and there is still 1/2 the fenders to protect the boat.
Allows the boat to be much closer to the dock.
Not for big blows, but general use.
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08-13-2017, 06:43 PM
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City: New England and Canada to Florida
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We use 4 foot 2x4. I was concerned about this given that we are a 30,000 pound boat. but they have served 8 years. Nearly 100 locks. One tropical storm (Sandy) and on near miss hurricane Irene. Mind you that if we were in a very exposed slip, I would be very concerned about their adequate strength, however they have been used hard. They are light weight too.
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08-13-2017, 06:50 PM
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Senior Member
City: Wherever the boat is
Vessel Name: Kismet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panacea123
This works for me
Much better than flat fender boards in a big blow if not in a slip
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Brilliant
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08-14-2017, 05:04 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I have found it difficult to obtain pressure treated material that in not heart wood, the center of the tree.
Paying extra for a board with strength is worth the effort.
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08-14-2017, 08:25 AM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
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PVC pipe is stronger than pressurized pine?
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08-14-2017, 10:35 AM
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Senior Member
City: California Bay Area
Vessel Name: BOOSTER
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Here's a pic of some fender boards I made out of scrap pine 2X2 for a previous boat (made them for a specific piling situation with an older, heavier trawler). They ended up being very handy with the powercat when we did the Erie, Oswego and Trent-Severn canals.
In the photo I'm trial-fitting them in preparation for entering the Erie canal. They held up incredibly well for about 150 locks that summer.
PS: I ended up tying them direct to the upper loop on the fenders.That way they rode with the fenders when I adjusted height.
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