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Old 11-15-2014, 10:12 PM   #1
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"Fake" Crab Pots?

I've noticed during our trip south for the winter that a number of areas we tend to anchor in have gotten a crab pot disease. This occurs where the anchorages are in areas with waterfront residences. There is suddenly a proliferation of crab pots making anchoring impossible. This is particularly prevalent in Florida.

Can it possibly be that crabs have become the major food source or are home owners up to a dastardly trick? What do y'all think?

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Mr. hm. Interesting. Also interesting would be to contact the local fish and game people to see if crab was in season. If not in season I expect you could anchor in the midst of the "pots" could you not?
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Old 11-15-2014, 10:22 PM   #3
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Pull one. If you get shot we'll know it was a real trap. If you suddenly hear really loud obnoxious music aimed at you from shore, it's the home owner.
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HopCar,
That's what I call a definitive test. Thanks, can't wait to try it.
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Howard, how much of a problem is it? I know of one guy on Miami Beach who is just nuts. He hates cruisers so much that he bought several cheap plastic boats and anchored them off his back yard. Now instead of pretty real boats he looks at crappy plastic toys. Unfortunately all it takes is one obnoxious cruiser to piss off a home owner and make it difficult for everyone else.
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Well, as an example, I'm anchored tonight in the Indian River. I first entered the Banana River to anchor in one of my favorite spots off Dragon Point. Virtually the entire shoreline was infested with crab pots real or fake I don't know. Decided to continue up the river past the Mathers Bridge only to find the same conditions.

As the sun began to set I left the Banana River and anchored outside its mouth in the Indian River where we suffered the wakes of sport fish boats returning home in one hell of a rush until dark. Now it's peaceful and I'll beat it out of here tomorrow to our destination in Stuart FL.

We had anchored in the BR many times before the crab infestation, most recently last spring. Gotta love the creativity of the home owners if what I suspect is true.
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It is crab and lobster season in Florida. I don't know what they trap in the BR but down here it is stone crabs and spiny lobster.
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Perhaps they are real after all. I hope so.
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Perhaps, but I wouldn't put it past a clever home owner to try it.
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During season it can get covered here in Florida and now days we have so many recreational trappers

the ones near houses normally are recreational and are suppose to have " R " on them
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We live on the water and we have had the same thing happen. A commercial crab boat set crab pots right behind our dock. We could not get out without getting fouled in them. I waited till he came back to check the traps and then politely asked him to move them so we could get out and he replied he would. The next week they were back. I waited again till he checked them and told him that I will need to back out and if I get fouled he would be responsible. I asked him to just move them further out so we could have easy access. He removed them again and they never came back.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:29 AM   #12
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I know of one guy on Miami Beach who is just nuts. He hates cruisers so much that he bought several cheap plastic boats and anchored them off his back yard. Now instead of pretty real boats he looks at crappy plastic toys.
I think this is the place Parks is referring to. We anchored 2 nights nearby on our way north this summer. I counted 25 little sailing dinghys anchored in front of his house. Some have solar lights as I recall. It is known as Sunset Lake Anchorage and is listed on Active Captain under that name.

One of the locals mentioned that this home owner pays someone to move all those dinghy’s once every 6 months to comply with some sort of local anchoring regulation.

On our trip from Tampa to the Chesapeake this summer we found the worse crab trap problems were in Albemarle Sound. It was a bit choppy when we entered the sound so I decided to get the boat up on plane for a better ride. I was watching closely and avoiding many crab pots, some painted black and almost impossible to see. But my diligent efforts didn't pay off and I saw us running right over one. I immediately went to idle neutral but couldn't turn fast enough to avoid it. I shut both engines down and went back to the swim platform to see if I could find it. Finding nothing for 3 minutes or so I started back up and in idle fwd saw the crab pot float out from under the boat. We dodged the proverbial bullet. We stayed at displacement speed the rest of the way to Elisabeth City.


Another area full of crab pots is on the Chesapeake from Herrington Harbor (Tracys Landing, MD) to the Thomas Point Shoal Lighthouse. We pulled out 3 days later and found some rope around the port shaft.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:42 AM   #13
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.............On our trip from Tampa to the Chesapeake this summer we found the worse crap trap problems were in Albemarle Sound. It was a bit choppy when we entered the sound ............
We noticed the same thing on our cruise - both ways. Crab pots will be set out where the crabs are. There must be a lot of crabs there.

Crab pots (or just the floats tied to cinder blocks could be used by a homeowner to keep boats away but depending on state regulations the owner might have to have a license. Of course if they are fake he wouldn't need a license as long as nobody saw him set them out.

There is a "fleet" of derelict boats just downriver from my marina. One is upside down and one is stuck in the marsh. None have proper anchor lights or anchor balls. One is a tin shack on floats. No government agency will move them so I can understand why a property owner would want to keep such boats away from his property. Nice boats that stay a night or two are scenery. Boats left permanently are an eyesore. People living on a boat at anchor are most likely dumping sewage and garbage in the water at night.

I can understand both sides of the issue.
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Roger H sounds like you got away easy from other stories I have heard

Tim jet thanks for the picture after reading the above I really wanted to see this

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So, with all the crab pots, why haven't crabs been declared an endangered specie? I guess they reproduce too fast. With the price of crab meat being what it is and the employment situation being what it is, it's not surprising the number of crab pots is increasing.
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As in life a few AH will make life difficult for the responsible. Here at my Marina, Harbortown, at Fort Pierce, trere is an excellent anchorage just outside the basin. The manager said people, he suspects derilect cruisers, steals even light bulbs, soap and everything not tied down.
Btw, excellent cafe, good drinks, fuel, pump out and the marina is full, full, full mostly by returning customers. Their $12 prime rib sandwich is to die for. They were at 80% in the off season. They have some transient slips though.. Coming through, ask for Hobart, stop in say hi. If they look puzzeled ask for Sassy the apricot poodle.
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Stone crabs almost were completely depleted now both commercial and recreational only take one claw and put the crab back to grow another
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I can see why someone might put out bouys to keep people away.

On my lake people will cruise by at 3 knots in their pontoon boats within almost touching distance of my dock.

A string of well placed bouys will keep them at least a little ways away
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So, with all the crab pots, why haven't crabs been declared an endangered specie? I guess they reproduce too fast. With the price of crab meat being what it is and the employment situation being what it is, it's not surprising the number of crab pots is increasing.
Mmm crabs!
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Stone crabs almost were completely depleted now both commercial and recreational only take one claw and put the crab back to grow another
Yeah in England they take the right claw, here the left. That way they can hitch hike in their home country.
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