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Old 03-16-2019, 09:05 AM   #1
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Europa style cruisers

I am looking for a cruising boat with these characteristics- Europa/sedan style, solid glass no wood below the water line (eliminates any Beneteau boat), cruises at 13 to 14 knots tops out at 19 knots, 2 state rooms, head must have separate stall shower, 40 to 45 ft in length. I am looking for a new Grand Banks Europa 42 style boat. Does anyone make one like this any more? I wish Grand Banks still made this model. Thanks for the input.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:46 AM   #2
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Does it have to be new? Several used GB Europas 42-52 ft on Yachtworld.
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:31 AM   #3
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Unfortunately I lack time and mechanical ability to do a lot. I think my solution will be found with American Tug or Nordic Tug. Yachtworld is a good resource.Thank you
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If there is a boat type you like such as the Grand Banks, get an older one and take it in for re-fit. I have re-powered, all new appliances, new electronics, new galley, added storage, fuel cell added, new deck top added, swim platform moved up and enlarged, new lighting, new cushions, just about everything updated, changed out, or added. This gets you "your" boat, not some one else, you know stuff is new, yet you have the style you want. I'm not mechanically inclined either.
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I have a 92 Europa, and cruise at 8 knots, max around 10.
The hull design of that vintage does not really support much more.

The newer GB EU models might, but are twice the cost of what the originals are.
The new GB 60 does!

Money spent refitting the drivetrain to get your desired speed change is wasted.

We have learned to go slow and enjoy the ride.

That model is an extremely desirable design, and not only holds it's value, it can appreciate if taken care of.
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PKPet,
Tugs (both American and Nordic) cruise best between 7 and 10 knots. They top out anywhere around 14-19 knots wide open and are not efficient at those speeds. Fuel burn is quite high and your miles per gallon of fuel go way down.

Like Choices stated, "slow down and enjoy the ride" if either Grand Banks or Tugs are the "style" of boat you are interested in.
If faster cruising speeds are very important to you maybe look at Carver, Tiara, or SeaRay (or other similar boats actually designed for the higher cruise speeds).
Just my opinion (and experience with Tugs),
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:07 AM   #7
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Sent you a PM.
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Old 03-17-2019, 12:11 PM   #8
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Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I have enjoyed the benefits of a semi displacement hull for 23 years. We unfortunately have outgrown the 33ft Nauset. Planing hulls are fine but to achieve speed builders are are turning to vacuum infusion balsa core hulls below the water line (Beneteau, Sea Ray among others) which I do not like. Sea Ray has many wet hulls to the point that there is pending litigation. So heeding the advise provided by this forum on different threads, my wife and I will sea trial different brands, research maintenance costs, reliability and quality of construction. We will use surveyors to inspect the quality of both new and used before settling on the final purchase
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"We will use surveyors to inspect the quality of both new and used before settling on the final purchase."


Before plunking down big bucks a visit to the factory might be informative.
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Unfortunately I lack time and mechanical ability to do a lot.

Donít make the mistake of thinking a new boat requires less maintenance. The same things wear put and break no matter their age. It is not much of a stretch to say that some new boat require more maintenance than their used counterparts because there is no previous owner to have worked out all the kinks. If you do buy new, you had better make sure you have a factory service provider nearby.
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PK, need your email to send what you asked for. See my PM.
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