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Old 04-12-2016, 07:01 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Giggitoni View Post
...covered aft and side decks where you live would seem to be a big plus.
V-births can get noisy with the constant lapping of wavelets against the hull...
Also, the smaller Europa-style boats are good for two sleepers but not so much for guests. Your guests will have to sleep on the saloon settees, etc.

Trade offs.....
Our "smaller" 36ft Europa has just one (fwd) sleeping cabin, with semi walk around bed. I call it "the selfish couple`s fitout". There is a 2 cabin version, Brisboy has one. No wave slap on the IG.
The covered cockpit is often a good size for socializing(I exclude Blue Seas),with easy direct access to the salon/living main cabin.
You avoid multiple up and downs.
You get good access for placing docking lines.
The extended FB is a good place to store the dinghy.
And, imo, they look good.

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Old 04-12-2016, 07:09 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by RT Firefly View Post
Mr, bc. We've had both the aft cabin and the "Europa". We much prefer the latter, primarily for the large saloon and the all around views. When you think about it, unless you are newlyweds, how much time do you spend in bed? We also prefer complete walk around decks as opposed to a full width saloon. Makes things a lot easier to go from bow to stern without walking inside, particularly with soaking foul weather gear although I understand it never rains in the PNW. On rare occasions where is might rain, the deck overhang protects the saloon windows somewhat.
Yeh - what he said 2.

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Old 04-12-2016, 07:11 PM   #23
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When you travel with children the aft cabin is nice.
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:54 AM   #24
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We really like our Mariner 40. Coming from a sailboat, we weren't too concerned about sleeping in the bow. We did notice a little more 'slap' than in our sailboat. But we are accustomed to it now , so all is good.
We like the ease of boarding on one level, a nice 'back porch', walk around decks, large sundeck/fly bridge and just all around great boat.

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Old 04-13-2016, 07:28 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by bcarli View Post
We are curious about trawler owners who have chosen "Europa" designs over the standard aft cabin layout...we are gravitating towards the "Europa" because of the easy access to outside, comfortable outside seating area and the lack of stairs that many trawlers have. The main trade off is the V berth cabin which we are comfortable with. Would like to hear from other owners..
I'll just simply answer by saying, we would consider no other layout than sedan or Europa as they now tend to call it. If you go to a length of 36' - 40' upwards, you would probably find a walk around double up front anyway, and probably a second guest cabin to port or starboard, and still have the nice roomy cockpit.

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