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11-27-2015, 10:16 PM
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Entry door style - name?
Hi there,
What is the name or style of saloon/cabin entry door (from or onto the aft deck) that, instead of being a companionway hatch & door arrangement, has a raised box permanently affixed to the saloon roof and uses a taller door?
Suppose a photo would be helpful, but I don't happen to have one..
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11-28-2015, 12:32 AM
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Like the door to the aft deck on this Neville 42 LRC below. (Trying to get the name of this style of door to do some targeted googling for more information)
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11-28-2015, 12:44 AM
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A less-expensive alternative:
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11-28-2015, 01:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
A less-expensive alternative:
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Thanks, but we've got something similar already and not what I'm looking for.
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11-28-2015, 09:28 AM
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A better view of the entry style I'm trying to find the name for, from Kasten Marine; http://www.kastenmarine.com/_screens..._above_aft.jpg
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11-28-2015, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MurrayM
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I wish I could help with what the doorway is called . I like your stile , finding out what it's called first . Something I should have done on another thread
I also like those Kasten designs .
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11-28-2015, 10:00 AM
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Hey Marty...you'll note I didn't mention anything about certain unnamed overhead structural features
Here's a rather extreme aft deck entry example (taller than what I'm considering) on another Kasten design;
Motor Yacht Designs
Anybody know the name of that style of entry?
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11-28-2015, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
Hi there,
What is the name or style of saloon/cabin entry door (from or onto the aft deck) that, instead of being a companionway hatch & door arrangement, has a raised box permanently affixed to the saloon roof and uses a taller door?
Suppose a photo would be helpful, but I don't happen to have one..
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In a search of the Kasten Marine website I found mention to a "scuttle" for access to the aft house, maybe thats what it is called. Bet Tad knows the name......
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11-28-2015, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rochepoint
In a search of the Kasten Marine website I found mention to a "scuttle" for access to the aft house, maybe thats what it is called. Bet Tad knows the name......
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Quality detective work there Mike...unfortunate name choice for that style of entry though...once you combine the words 'boat' and 'scuttle' in a google search it brings up things none of us want to consider
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11-28-2015, 10:41 AM
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Getting closer...
Quote:
SCUTTLE, (écoutille, Fr.) a small hatchway cut for some particular purpose through a ship's deck, or through the coverings of her hatchways, and furnished with a lid which firmly incloses it whenever necessary. See DECK and HATCHWAY.
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William Falconer's Dictionary of the Marine, S, page 1147
...but not a very popular term (grrrrr).
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11-28-2015, 11:11 AM
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On a sailboat it's called a fixed raised companionway, or maybe a doghouse.
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11-28-2015, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AusCan
On a sailboat it's called a fixed raised companionway, or maybe a doghouse.
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Ahhh...more clues. Thanks, will search more later as house renovations lurk, undone.
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11-28-2015, 01:30 PM
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I've always called it, and heard it referred to as, a companionway scuttle.
I split the fo'c'sle in two and put a wide one with two doors in it for private
entries for each side.
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11-28-2015, 03:27 PM
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common on Benford designs if I remember...maybe local could swing by or email and ask.
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11-28-2015, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
common on Benford designs if I remember...maybe local could swing by or email and ask.
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Yup. Here's one on the foredeck; Benford Design Group
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11-28-2015, 03:49 PM
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Unfortunately can't remember the boaty name....when I moved back aboard, with the internet...finally sold off my sizeable boat building book collection.
But nothing so far posted is ringing a bell and the internet yields nothing on a few searches tried....except this...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companionway
Companionway
Page issues
For other uses, see Companion (disambiguation).
In the architecture of a ship, a companion or companionway is a raised and windowed hatchway in the ship's deck, with a ladder leading below and the hooded entrance-hatch to the main cabins.
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11-28-2015, 04:00 PM
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Strumpet? Ernest Ganns old boat.
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11-28-2015, 04:17 PM
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I've only known it as a "doghouse". I had a canvas one with SS tubing on my companionway hatch. I removed it. Can still see old pictures with the tubing still installed in my personal pages.
I would caution you to consider rearward visibility with a hard doghouse. I always had the canvas down. Too bad you are thinking of this now, I just got rid of the frame a month or two ago. Canvas was gone a long time ago. It is nice for an open hatch in the rain. Easy to mosquito screen too.
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11-28-2015, 05:45 PM
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It depends on who you ask.....
Jay Benford picks it out on his drawings as "scuttle". But he's wrong, according to the Oxford Companion, scuttle is the proper name for what we commonly call a porthole.
Doghouse is an American yachting term that refers to a short deckhouse or main hatchway raised above the cabintop or coachroof.
Booby-Hatch is a "small opening in the deck of a vessel used as an additional compaionway to facilitate movement" Thus the small raised structure with door and sometimes a sliding top is a booby-hatch. You will find it so named on drawings by William Garden and others, including Nathaniel Herreshoff.....
http://www.sjogin.com/?p=147
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11-28-2015, 06:00 PM
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