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Old 08-19-2015, 11:38 PM   #1
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I am beginning to compile a list of features that would be nice to have in a trawler. One is a engine room door or bulkhead with walk in access as opposed to lifting stairs or hatches to get in and (wait for it) 6' headroom within? I realize that this is at odds with another search parameter I like, and that is to buy the smallest boat that has everything we need aboard and 2 can comfortably handle - which for us could be in the 44' to 58' range - but I fear this kind of engine room I describe may only appear on trawlers a lot bigger than this. Are there any +/- 50' trawlers known for having awesome engine room access and headroom?

I'm thinking this one might work, but it is about 40' too big Gorgeous looking boat though...
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Old 08-19-2015, 11:58 PM   #2
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The Defever Sundecks have phenominal engine rooms for a 44 foot boat. They are not 6 feet but they are somewhere around 5.5 with excellent access to all service points. They also employ a sea chest which makes things easier as well.
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:02 AM   #3
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Here is a link to what I am talking about...
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:11 AM   #4
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Mine is 6'4" when you step through the door onto the forward plate. then 7'2"
along both sides of the engine.

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Old 08-20-2015, 12:24 AM   #5
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Our KK 58 has a full size watertight door from the stateroom level to the engine room. ER is mostly around 6' or so, becoming a bit shorter towards the stern. I have no problem moving around and getting access to everything. Of course, I am only 5'8". The boat is very easy for a couple to handle.
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:45 AM   #6
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Mikelson Nomad (62' without stretch is > 6' 3".
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:54 AM   #7
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Bracewell Pacesetter 54' has a stand up engine room but not technically a trawler type boat.

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Old 08-20-2015, 05:53 AM   #8
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Greetings,
Many moons ago I was on what I "think" was a Diesel Duck 42' and although tiny in area, did have a stand up ER.
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:03 AM   #9
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Baker's right. Diesel Ducks aside, in a sub 50-footer, a Defever 44 to 48 may be hard to beat. Ours has 5'7" headroom at the forward portion; only slightly less moving aft. Feels cavernous in there and the entrance door, while not full height, is infinitely easier than using a hatch. I know a guy with a 48 who lowered the floor pans in the bilge and has about 6' of headroom. (Must look into that further.)

As for access for maintenance, it's generally fantastic. The only flaw, IMO, is that the original design has a battery bank outboard of each engine, which makes service on that side challenging at times. Like others have done, I'm consolidating the house banks into a single large bank on the aft platform opposite the gen set (labelled tool chest/watermaker in the diagram).



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Old 08-20-2015, 06:34 AM   #10
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I'm 5'11" and can stand up in almost all of our ER. We have the same bulkhead door as the Defever 44 and 49. Way easier access than floor panels.
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:58 AM   #11
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Second the Defever 50'. Saw one earlier in the year at Trawlerfest and loved it.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:54 AM   #12
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I am beginning to compile a list of features that would be nice to have in a trawler. One is a engine room door or bulkhead with walk in access as opposed to lifting stairs or hatches to get in and (wait for it) 6' headroom within? I realize that this is at odds with another search parameter I like, and that is to buy the smallest boat that has everything we need aboard and 2 can comfortably handle - which for us could be in the 44' to 58' range - but I fear this kind of engine room I describe may only appear on trawlers a lot bigger than this. Are there any +/- 50' trawlers known for having awesome engine room access and headroom?

I'm thinking this one might work, but it is about 40' too big Gorgeous looking boat though...
Most of the Cheoy Lees have 7ft head room My Cheoy Lee 50 tri cabin has 7ft+ and walk round engines. Acess is through the master cabin a pair of doors 5'x5' Through which anything can be carried. Plus the usual main deck e.r. door and lantile. You can easily stand 10 people in there for a cocktail party!
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:14 AM   #13
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The Diesel Ducks have a nice engine room. It's more up to what builders wallet is to how nice it's finished out. It's not huge, but very well laid out to where you can get to everything.

I had a lot customizing done to my Duck plans before it was built. My engine room ended up at 5'9” a couple inches short of the plans, but still gives me head room.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:59 AM   #14
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Aren't great harbors offering good headroom?
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:00 AM   #15
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Headroom is a function of boat size and layout.


Sometimes it is abundant due to boat size...sometimes it is convenient...like down the middle of a twin engine vessel yet the outboard sides of the engines and corners are all but inaccessible.


Headroom is great but not nearly as important is accessibility. I have completely rearranged my engine room so everything is right in front of me except some newly installed plumbing and wiring.


Headroom is more glamour than substance on a boat that cant afford it...if its there and the space usage wise and the rest of the boats works....GREAT! Just not that many until the mid forties and up....then I think many great boats afford it to a degree.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:14 AM   #16
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Aren't great harbors offering good headroom?
You bet. The N-Series 37 and 47 cant be challenged fro the same length. The 37 must be at least 5.5' on entry and the 47 must be another foot at least. Maybe Kraftee can confirm that.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:46 AM   #17
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Californian sundeck boats have NEARLY stand-up spaces. a Cheoy Lee has a nice stand-up space too. We also saw an Ocean Alexander, 48 maybe?, that fit your criteria.

On the other side of the coin... SeaRay Sedan Bridge and Bayliner 47xx have to most unfriendly spaces I have ever seen. :-) There may be worse ones, but these are just personal observations based on recent shopping.
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Old 08-20-2015, 10:02 AM   #18
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Californian Sundecks do not compare to the Defever Sundecks....IMO
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Krogen 39 has a stand up entry and initial 4-5 ft. or so with a nice work bench and tool area. I was also impressed by a late model Selene 36 that I could nearly stand straight and walk around the single Cummins. More than that was the actual machinery layout which helped access enormously. This was also the real asset of the N-series Great Harbours, with a nearly 16 ft. wide ER. Things were easy to pull up a stool and wrench away.
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I had reasonable access between engines. That worked for general maintainance. For more extensive work I just lifted the salon floor
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