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Old 05-05-2012, 07:58 AM   #21
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No emergency tiller required. . .

Another nice feature of having twin engines. She handles quite well by altering the engine speed while cruising and even better at docking by altering speed and reversing one or the other.

Have I had to use it before? Yes, blew a hydrolic steering line 6 miles out of Victoria BC. Came all the way back to Anacortes, Wa steering with the engines.

Thanks for bringing that up single engine boys!!
I wanted to say that real bad but I didn't. Glad someone did, now we can dance again.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:27 AM   #22
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I remember that long slow tow rope. When I lost an injector line and decided to shut it down rather than squirt fuel all over the place. The afternoon thunderstorm was bearing down on us too.

Then there was that time the poly tarp floating just below the water got wrapped around my prop. There was a thunderstorm at the end of that one too.

Actually I suffer from twin engine envy.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:55 AM   #23
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Except for Navies,where cost is not a consideration,there are few ships with 2 engines and most do not get to port on a tow rope.
Well... REAL ships have four wheels.
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:20 AM   #24
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Since I have twins, I took my emergency tiller off the boat as I thought that it served no purpose. Then I realized that If my steering system failed with the rudders turned, I will need to straighten them with the tiller. So it's back in the lazarette.
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:27 AM   #25
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I was looking at mine down in the lazarette just the other day and wondered what circumstances would drive me to use the emergency tiller and that one reminds me. I don't think I would drive the boat with it though. Probably just use it to straighten the boards.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:34 AM   #26
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My manuall tiller is easy to get to, but a bear to install. And would have to be operated without much visibility.
However, my hydraulic stern thruster is the first emergency tiller
A bow thruster is a often overlooked " emergency" steering system.
I had the misfortune to loose steering while coming back to P.T. from the San Juans about five years ago.. the boat didnt respond to any input to the hydraulic steering. I did have an emergency tiller.. but the thought of trying to navigate the marina from the stern of the boat wasnt a ideal situation. At low speed the bow thruster did a fine job of getting me the final couple miles and through the marina and backed into my slip. After that event I practiced this a couple more times and by going slow and easy it was a non event. On my new boat which has twins.. I rarely use the rudders for any slow speed maneuvering
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:05 PM   #27
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Except for Navies,where cost is not a consideration,there are few ships with 2 engines and most do not get to port on a tow rope.
No, but they have huge engines, a full time engineering staff, lots of spare parts, and tools and equipment to do everything from change a pump to change a cylinder. No similarity to our little toy boats at all.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:18 PM   #28
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We don't have an emergency tiller but we do have twins. On our 32 once the steering went out and I brought her all the way back and into the slip without steerage. Like most here with twins, I rarely ever use my helm in the marina, just no need for it. Add to that both bow and stern thrusters which our new boat has and life is very good.

Twins, the only way to go. Even better with Captain Morgan.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:31 PM   #29
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Great. Another twin s single debate. WHO started it??
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Great. Another twin s single debate. WHO started it??
At least nobody brought up fuel polishing. Oh damn!
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #31
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At least nobody brought up fuel polishing. Oh damn!
Totally unnecessary if you have twins.

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Old 05-05-2012, 08:08 PM   #32
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I got rid of my emergency tiller. My steering is mechanical (shafts, chain reduction and pitman arm). I also have an auto pilot that runs through a hydraulic cylinder and pump system. So, my backup system is my auto pilot remote control.

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Emergency tiller

Here's my set-up, and yes, it works....tho I didn't really need it, just played around with it...
I made the handle out of an old oar, and set in it a couple of screws, which protrude just enough and are the right spacing to fit the recesses in the cover-plate to unscrew it to reveal the top of the rudder stock/pintle - whatever - tho they are out of sight on the other side of the handle, however they are visible near the end of the handle in the lower pic.
Oops - I'll ry again, pics didn't post 1st time - wadidIdowrong..?

FYI it was because the 'upload files' button is sort of out of sight to right of the window view in my set-up, and I had to scroll sideways to see it..
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Here's my set-up, and yes, it works....tho I didn't really need it, just payed around with it...
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Look again Forklift - you must have happened on it just when I discovered the pics missed the post. The thread was emergency tiller porn, after all, tho one could be forgiven for wondering because of the typical thread wandering which occurred.
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When single engine ships lose power they often end as disasters

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Except for Navies,where cost is not a consideration,there are few ships with 2 engines and most do not get to port on a tow rope.
I personally have lost engines on several occasions, Imagine trying to work on a single engine boat in 8-10 footers with out enough steerage to keep the boat from going beam too. I ended up in the surf off Jenner with a dive boat when the fuel pump diaphragm failed on my 25hp Mercury. Or how about the time in South East Alaska when the main circuit breaker on my single engine boat failed and lost all power in a driving rainstorm, I hadn't seen a boat in two days, or the time in the California delta when my brand new Bravo three drive seized in less than three miles from the harbor.
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I'm gonna fish mine out today and clean it up (it's a rusty mess) and give it a well-deserved cleaning and coat of paint. I've never even connected it, but the thought about having rudders locked off-center is a good enough reason to have one. (even with twins)
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OOOOHHHHH I am lovin' that deck plate access to the rudder post. I have to pull my entire hatch off and leave it off to use the emergency tiller. Hopefully I'll only need it on warm sunny days with no wind or waves. (Right....)

That looks like a diesel or water deck fill. I bet I could find one of those in a surplus shop. I have a 6" plastic screw access plate that I was going to put in the hatch but I just don't like the looks of it . It would look like a big white plastic frizzbe landed on my teak deck.
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