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Old 12-03-2015, 09:08 PM   #41
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That is the word on my street. Sorry, but ya know, 200' feet is pretty respectable as a general rule. BTW, your El Pescadore is one hell of a boat. I am a Texan in FL. But I have been to the factory. Best design I have seen, and the quality was excellent. 300 ft of chain will help ya in West Bay or Big Pasture Bayou in East Bay.(humor) I seldom needed that much chain on my John boat in East or West Bay or on my Yak in Port Aransas. (More humor). Catch a few Reds for me. FL inshore fishing is tough. FL needs a high capacity hatchery.

Please post som pix of your boat for the Non Texans.
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:24 PM   #42
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:26 PM   #43
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:27 PM   #44
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:29 PM   #45
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I seem to have a little to learn about the efficient, accurate posting of photos.
Thanks for reply...it's a great fishing boat until you stick it on a reef or sandbar (I do that a lot) it runs is less water than it will float and when you stop you're screwed. ...heavy and a bear to get off.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:55 AM   #46
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There are chain joining links one can get. Yes, it might end up the so-called weak link, but as the chain most folk use has a fairly wide performance margin, and you would only be putting out that much such as to bring the new chain and joiner into play very seldom, and usually good conditions, (because you would not choose to anchor in a very deep place unless the forecast was good, right?), so it may end up an academic issue only.

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Old 12-04-2015, 06:26 AM   #47
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I am still wondering how much coral infested waters this boat will be cruising in.

Chain is Required where rope would be cut.

I'm pretty lazy so keep the chain on board , should I suddenly wake up in Tahiti.

I have found nylon to be easier , stronger , far less weight , and does not require scrubbing before going below EACH TIME its recovered.

Nylon does not require a special built-shaped chain locker and is far faster to deploy in an emergency.

So why chain? for a non tropical cruiser?
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Because it seems to be what everyone else uses in the PNW.
Sometimes that's a good reason.
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Old 12-04-2015, 09:15 AM   #49
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Did I read in this thread that there is no way to splice chain and have it work properly in a windlass?

If I have 200' and want to go to 300' there is no splicing? I just throw away the 200' and go buy 300' of new chain?

I too have 200' of 3/8 G4 chain left over from my previous boat but would like to have 300' on board. If there is no reliable link, I'm thinking of just splicing a 100' of nylon rode to the end .... ? I don't even know how often this will go overboard .. ?
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:30 AM   #50
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Has anyone tried "splicing" chain links with Amsteel (Dyneema)? Wonder if that would work? I think there's a good chance it would but I'm afraid to try it without some real data.
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Then again, Amsteel might chafe through in that application.
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I cut a link open, added the additional chain, closed the link, had it professionally welded, and then had all the chain regalvanized. Am happy with the results, but would likely not do it again. Should have just sold the chain I had and bought new.

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Old 12-04-2015, 11:52 AM   #53
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More chain=more weight. I have a 28,000 lb boat, 5/16 chain, 66 feet, 300ft 5/8 8 plait nylon rode with a 44lb Rocna. In a fast hard charging ebb and flow similiar to San Luis Pass. I put out 95 feet in 12-14 foot water, sand bottom and NO WORRIES.

Get a Rocna, use the 100 foot piece with 150+ feet of 8 plait. The 8 plait has low probability of tangling, it just piles up but a real nightmare to splice, (I wore out U-tube) but the best rode for stowage. Your Rocna will be a small one for your boat.
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Do yourself a favor, And Google new generation anchors. you can do much better than an old style plow
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:24 PM   #55
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Because it seems to be what everyone else uses in the PNW.
Sometimes that's a good reason.
There are good reasons we use an all chain rode in the PNW. Is it really necessary for FL or TX? Don't know.

I carry 550ft of all chain rode, heavy yes, but my boat design took that into consideration when she was built.
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"There are good reasons we use an all chain rode in the PNW"

Such as?
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I once had a 40' Pacific Trawler and I bought 600' of 1/4" chain thinking that it may save the boat some day. After getting a piece of rope tangled in the prop during a storm I had to put out the entire rode in order to stay off the rocks nearby. I dived to remove the rope and had a rude awakening when I tried to bring the anchor up. The windlass would only pull up around 5 feet before blowing the breaker. The total weight was over the windlass's limit and it was a real cluster trying to manually wind the chain in while keeping the boat off the rocks.

I wholeheartedly agree with those suggesting a combination of chain and rope.
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I once had a 40' Pacific Trawler and I bought 600' of 1/4" chain thinking that it may save the boat some day. After getting a piece of rope tangled in the prop during a storm I had to put out the entire rode in order to stay off the rocks nearby. I dived to remove the rope and had a rude awakening when I tried to bring the anchor up. The windlass would only pull up around 5 feet before blowing the breaker. The total weight was over the windlass's limit and it was a real cluster trying to manually wind the chain in while keeping the boat off the rocks.

I wholeheartedly agree with those suggesting a combination of chain and rope.
I must be missing something in your story. If you are moving the boat forward so that the chain is vertical, at any given moment the windlass is only lifting the weight of the rode between it an the bottom; length of chain should have nothing to do with it. Bad windlass? Or pulling the boat with the windlass rather than powering into position?
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I must be missing something in your story. If you are moving the boat forward so that the chain is vertical, at any given moment the windlass is only lifting the weight of the rode between it an the bottom; length of chain should have nothing to do with it. Bad windlass? Or pulling the boat with the windlass rather than powering into position?
The chain was straight down with almost no hold on the bottom. So, roughly 650-675# of pull and a windlass that overheated pulling the load. After I got 150' on board it handled the load without a problem.
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The chain was straight down with almost no hold on the bottom. So, roughly 650-675# of pull and a windlass that overheated pulling the load. After I got 150' on board it handled the load without a problem.
Still doesn't make sense. How deep was the water?
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