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Old 09-06-2014, 11:27 AM   #41
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So here are the top contenders so far, in no specific order.
1986 Albin 27 Aft Cabin Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1985 Cape Dory Cape Dory Trawler Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1983 Island Gypsy Europa Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Comments of courser are always welcome!
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:33 PM   #42
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1983 Island Gypsy Europa Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

She looks like she needs deck work. Wondering if shes in real rough shape and thats why she has sat on YW for a long time. The price seems fair but then again I haven't seen her up close.
Nice looking craft - With hull stated as fiberglass... why does the transom look so much like wood (see two picts in last several pictures) - fake laminate? Good luck! - Art
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Nice looking craft - With hull stated as fiberglass... why does the transom look so much like wood (see two picts in last several pictures) - fake laminate? Good luck! - Art
Not fake laminate at all. More like solid teak planks on solid fiberglass. Almost all fiberglass GB's are done this way and IG's are built like GB's. I don't think IG built wood boats.
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How was the wood attached to the FG transom?
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Old 09-06-2014, 01:02 PM   #45
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Not fake laminate at all. More like solid teak planks on solid fiberglass. Almost all fiberglass GB's are done this way and IG's are built like GB's. I don't think IG built wood boats.
You are correct except the last line. Halvorsen (Island Gypsy) started out building wood boats about 100 years ago.
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Sorry - But I just gotta say...

For aesthetic purposes: That "fake" transom wood over fiberglass (to try and resemble a classic woody) is just a problem waiting to happen... not to mention greatly increased upkeep!

If it's for structural needs - then why was the fiberglass not constructed correctly to begin with?

Just the added weight is a BS proposition!

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You're just like me Art. You're jealous because you haven't got one of those magnificent Grand Banks Yachts.
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How was the wood attached to the FG transom?
I'm not sure, but remember reading that it was glued and screwed-on.
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You are correct except the last line. Halvorsen (Island Gypsy) started out building wood boats about 100 years ago.
I thought "Kong and Halverson" (Island Gypsy) was started in the mid 70's when Joseph Kong lost his job at American Marine in Hong Kong when AM was moving production to Singapore.
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I thought "Kong and Halverson" (Island Gypsy) was started in the mid 70's when Joseph Kong lost his job at American Marine in Hong Kong when AM was moving production to Singapore.

You're likely right Mahal I recall the Halvorsen part of the story vaguely to be he started in Norway or somewhere close around late 18 early 1900's. He moved to Australia some time after that and even built a wooden Americas Cup contender once. I know they moved to the orient at some point. Quite an old company though.
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I'm not sure, but remember reading that it was glued and screwed-on.
Reminds me of the derogatory saying about someone or something: "Feel like I just got glued, tattooed, and screwed!" Not a favorable comment... At All!!
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You're just like me Art. You're jealous because you haven't got one of those magnificent Grand Banks Yachts.
Wise cracks will get you everywhere!

For content you mention - I think not on both our parts.
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Sorry - But I just gotta say...

For aesthetic purposes: That "fake" transom wood over fiberglass (to try and resemble a classic woody) is just a problem waiting to happen... not to mention greatly increased upkeep!

If it's for structural needs - then why was the fiberglass not constructed correctly to begin with?

Just the added weight is a BS proposition!

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Some folks don't like the Clorox bottle look, so its an aesthetic thing. I think boats should look like.... well boats.

What ever that means. lol
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Sorry - But I just gotta say...

For aesthetic purposes: That "fake" transom wood over fiberglass (to try and resemble a classic woody) is just a problem waiting to happen... not to mention greatly increased upkeep!

If it's for structural needs - then why was the fiberglass not constructed correctly to begin with?

Just the added weight is a BS proposition!

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No problem with mine at all. Yes on the extra maintenance (varnish) but someone else does that for me, so I don't sweat it.

In my opinion, varnished teak transoms look nice. Here are transom photos of a GB and of a Tolly for comparison sake.
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No problem with mine at all. Yes on the extra maintenance (varnish) but someone else does that for me, so I don't sweat it.

In my opinion, varnished teak transoms look nice. Here are transom photos of a GB and of a Tolly for comparison sake.
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Placing an obviously untended OLD (1960's) Tolly (of glue-lam over plywood construction method) in comparison with recently varnished transom well tended by expensive hired help!

Ten fathom penalty! Same play starts over again.

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Good one Mahal

I've always been a fan of the IG and GB butt bling myself. Can't be that much maintenance.
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Good one Mahal

I've always been a fan of the IG and GB butt bling myself. Can't be that much maintenance.
You too Craig?

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I love the classic lines of a GB, almost bought one. Next time or a KK42, time will tell.
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Thanks for sharing the link on the 26'. I am going to take a look at it the next weekend. Really great layout and I have read through their last survey. Looks like a nice little cruiser. I also want to take a look at a Willard and CHB. I am open to either a trailerable boat or something much more economical w/ a diesel.
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