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Old 08-18-2015, 08:27 PM   #21
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My dog Ruby (a lab/shepherd) was raised on Saltspring, never a leash or doggie bag. I saw her go pooh maybe 3 times in 11 years, she always went to the perimeter, the process was transparent.

And did you know that salal depends on doggy dew just as surely as trees need salmon carcasses left by bears? Well, you see with all that human traffic, they have to be fertilized, see, or.... maybe find another less traveled path? No shortage on this coast.
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:37 PM   #22
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Yup, me too and I don't even have a dog. Friends do but I got used to carrying them in Vancouver where everyone "forgets" or "just ran out."

We are a disgusting species.

You know what's worse? Someone who respectfully bags their dog poop and leaves it on the trail in the middle of nowhere for others to take away. Happens all too often. Sorry, but if the poops off the trail a respectful distance away, I leave it. Elsewhere, in the "burbs" or"u-burbs" I bag it. And in the central coast I leave it unless it's in the town.


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Often the poop bags one sees alongside a trail were not left for others to pick up but for the dog owner to pick up on the way back so he or she doesn't have to carry it on the entire hike. The thin plastic bags sold these days are quickly permeated by odor and carrying one on a hike means walking in the odor the whole time.

While we don't leave a bag in obvious sight along a trail or road we will stash one for pickup on the way back and mark the spot with a stone or stick that we will notice as a reminder.

Not that every bag one sees is going to be picked up later, but I suspect most of them are. The dog owners we know who bother to pick up their dog's waste are almost always the type who are not going to then leave it for someone else to carry out. Someone who intends to do that most likely won't pick up the waste in the first place.
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Doggy dew.

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Often the poop bags one sees alongside a trail were not left for others to pick up but for the dog owner to pick up on the way back so he or she doesn't have to carry it on the entire hike. The thin plastic bags sold these days are quickly permeated by odor and carrying one on a hike means walking in the odor the whole time.

While we don't leave a bag in obvious sight along a trail or road we will stash one for pickup on the way back and mark the spot with a stone or stick that we will notice as a reminder.

Not that every bag one sees is going to be picked up later, but I suspect most of them are. The dog owners we know who bother to pick up their dog's waste are almost always the type who are not going to then leave it for someone else to carry out. Someone who intends to do that most likely won't pick up the waste in the first place.

Caulfield/cypress trails, West Vacouver: we walk these trails a lot. Far too many bags left behind! They remain there for days! It's a pet peeve of mine...and I pick up these bags. My dogs have always left the trail to poop and I leave it there. It's just plain silly to remove dog poop from miles from any property when it isn't even on the trail for someone to step on it.


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Old 08-18-2015, 10:32 PM   #25
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Caulfield/cypress trails, West Vacouver: we walk these trails a lot. Far too many bags left behind! They remain there for days!
Well, I put those folks in the same category as the ones in our marina who take a portable pump-out cart to their boat, pump their holding tank(s) into the cart, then return the full cart to it's "hangar" but don't bother to pump the cart's tank into the sewer connection but instead leave it for the next user to pump out for them.

Frankly I think people who do that sort of thing deserve to have the pump-out carts pumped into the front seats of their cars.
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Well, I put those folks in the same category as the ones in our marina who take a portable pump-out cart to their boat, pump their holding tank(s) into the cart, then return the full cart to it's "hangar" but don't bother to pump...
Huh, I didn't know there were such things as pump out carts. Boy, with my 40 gallon tank, that would be awfully heavy. Ew.
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Huh, I didn't know there were such things as pump out carts. Boy, with my 40 gallon tank, that would be awfully heavy. Ew.
Yes, they're terrific. Our harbor installed them a long time ago. They are stationed on the various docks in the harbor in fiberglass "hangars" or little parking areas at the midpoint on some docks and can be wheeled to your boat.

The pump is a peristaltic pump, I believe it's called. Sort of a giant blood transfusion pump where an arm with rollers on each end rotates around in a big round chamber with a heavy rubber tube around its inside circumference. The action of the rollers compressing the tube moves the contents through the tube and provides the pump suction.

The carts plug into the standard 30 amp twist receptacles on the power stands at the slips and there is a similar outlet at their hangar or parking spot.

The tanks on the carts hold 25 gallons. So you wheel the thing to your boat (they roll and steer easily), pump out the tank, then roll it back to its hangar or parking spot and connect it to the sewer line. The pump then rotates the other direction to pump the tank out into the sewer line.

They're great because you don't have to take your boat to the pumpout dock, you can take care of this right at your slip.

We have two holding tanks on our boat, a 40 gallon tank and a 25 gallon tank. Since it's so easy and quick to pump the tanks out we tend to do it after almost every cruise, even the short weekend ones. So the 25 gallon tank on the cart is generally sufficient. If not, it's easy enough to fill the cart's tank (there is an auto-shutoff so you can't overflow the tank) empty the cart and then bring it back to the boat.

In our opinion it's one of the smartest things the Port of Bellingham has done in our harbor.
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We always pick up after out dog, pretty much no matter where we are. If there is not a trash can around to dispose of it, we take it back to the boat and it goes the same place ours does-the holding tank-we flush it. We have a sealed container to put the used bag until we reach a trash can.
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Well, I am so relieved.
I finally get to disagree with Marin.
I was beginning to worry about myself being some kind of hero worshipper because I believed everything the man said.
Not so any more.
CRAP! I say.

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Not that every bag one sees is going to be picked up later, but I suspect most of them are. The dog owners we know who bother to pick up their dog's waste are almost always the type who are not going to then leave it for someone else to carry out. Someone who intends to do that most likely won't pick up the waste in the first place.

Here in "Metro" (God I hate that term) Vancouver, when the leaves fly south for the winter, the Alders are fully adorned with miniature white, green and blue piņatas. The same occurs when the snow melts; a landscape of Hershey Kisses.

I just do not understand the mentality of an individual who takes the time to stoop and scoop then flings things over fences into the tennis court or onto the Starbucks canopy.
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:00 PM   #30
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Caulfield/cypress trails, West Vacouver: we walk these trails a lot. Far too many bags left behind! They remain there for days! It's a pet peeve of mine...and I pick up these bags.
I moved to Sidney in early June, have been exploring all the parks and trails from Swartz Bay to Sooke and have have been so impressed with the dog owners here.

Until this past weekend I had not seen any tiny care packages left behind.
On Saturday, at Thetis Lake I came across a bag perched atop a trash receptacle.

The writing on the bag???

"Provided by Metro Vancouver."
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