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Old 08-27-2016, 07:57 AM   #121
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Most of the sailboats I see around here are under engine propulsion....
How TRUE! We owned a sailboat for 25 years, purchased it new. The problems we encountered were related to where it was that we wanted to go along with how long it would take. Sure, one can tack all day and be a purest or run the engine and just get there.

One of our friends moved forward with a brand new 45' Hunter center cockpit and sailed all around the Caribbean for almost 10 years. When they finally put their boat up for sail, I check the posting. The Yanma engine was advertised as having 3850 hours on it. Yes indeed..........they sailed
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Old 08-27-2016, 08:37 AM   #122
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Very true, while we were out cruising we motor sailed quite a bit. My problem/issue with our trawler is that trips of any distance have to be based on the location of fuel docks. With the sailboat there is much more freedom, if I want to go from Galveston to Florida I pick a weather window and head out and I would get there a whole lot quicker than hugging the coast to schedule fuel stops.
I know there are power boats in our marina that have made the trip across but those are well out of our price range.
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Old 08-27-2016, 08:38 AM   #123
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I am a motorboater that uses "Tradewinds" for Cat vacations in the Caribbean. Look them up. We have been very satisfied with the boats, food and service for years now. It gets me from the dark side to sailing for as much as I need.
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Old 08-27-2016, 03:25 PM   #124
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I am a motorboater that uses "Tradewinds" for Cat vacations in the Caribbean. Look them up. We have been very satisfied with the boats, food and service for years now. It gets me from the dark side to sailing for as much as I need.
We've thought about that but would prefer to get there on our own bottom again. Same with going back to Maine, rather use our own boat, no schedule or time constraints.
We've chartered in the Virgins before buying our sailboatbut there is always the dreaded "deadline" to turn the boat back in.
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:29 PM   #125
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We just did that from LI to S Freeport ME. Loved it. Wished we had planned a longer trip. Good folks at Brewers
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I'm currently in the process of doing this. Selling my beloved 34' CHB and transitioning into a 42 Catalina. Biggest issue I foresee is many of my old haunts will not be readily accessed with a near 7 foot draft.
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I'm currently in the process of doing this. Selling my beloved 34' CHB and transitioning into a 42 Catalina. Biggest issue I foresee is many of my old haunts will not be readily accessed with a near 7 foot draft.
The Catalina 42 is a nice boat with a proven track record, great owner groups, and unusually good manufacturer support.

Draft can be an issue of course, but like with anything else you get used to it. My waters are different than yours, but there weren't too many places that I felt uncomfortable going with a 7 foot draft. I admit that at least one of those (Swinomish Channel) was significant.
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I'm currently in the process of doing this. Selling my beloved 34' CHB and transitioning into a 42 Catalina. Biggest issue I foresee is many of my old haunts will not be readily accessed with a near 7 foot draft.
Good for you, wish it was us. If the boat doesn't have a watermaker, get one. Best investment we ever made in our sailboat. Gives you total freedom of where to go, when to go and how long to stay. With 110 gal of diesel we could run the genset to make water and charge batteries much longer than the beer usually lasted. Worst mistake we ever made was to sell that boat.
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Good for you, wish it was us. If the boat doesn't have a watermaker, get one. Best investment we ever made in our sailboat. Gives you total freedom of where to go, when to go and how long to stay. With 110 gal of diesel we could run the genset to make water and charge batteries much longer than the beer usually lasted. Worst mistake we ever made was to sell that boat.

Hey Bob, just curious, why did you sell and get into a trawler? When did you make the change?
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"My problem/issue with our trawler is that trips of any distance have to be based on the location of fuel docks."

If you are willing to run at sailboat displacement speeds , most motorboats have plenty of range for the waters they can operate safely in.
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"My problem/issue with our trawler is that trips of any distance have to be based on the location of fuel docks."

If you are willing to run at sailboat displacement speeds , most motorboats have plenty of range for the waters they can operate safely in.
How true. With 25 years of sailing behind us, we travel in our Silverton 40' on one engine at 1800RPMs. This gives us a two knot advantage (about 7K) over our old sailboat. Our fuel consumption at this speed averages between 1.4-1.6 miles/gal vs 0.4 mile/gal running with two engines on plane.

Now of course, if the sea turns to poop, time for two engines.
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Yeah, for me, I don't think fuel burn would be the main driver to go from trawler to sail. I would put more emphasis on things like being able to cruise safely in heavier weather, having redundant propulsion, the ability to use the boat in larger seas and windy conditions if you choose, and being more "connected" to the conditions and always having to tweak the sails, adjust something to keep busy. Romance!

I realize one could do all these same things with the right power boat (except for the tweaking maybe), but I think at a much greater cost than a sailboat. It would require a well constructed blue water capable boat with good stabilization, and they aren't cheap.
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Yeah, for me, I don't think fuel burn would be the main driver to go from trawler to sail. I would put more emphasis on things like being able to cruise safely in heavier weather, having redundant propulsion, the ability to use the boat in larger seas and windy conditions if you choose, and being more "connected" to the conditions and always having to tweak the sails, adjust something to keep busy. Romance!

I realize one could do all these same things with the right power boat (except for the tweaking maybe), but I think at a much greater cost than a sailboat. It would require a well constructed blue water capable boat with good stabilization, and they aren't cheap.
There is a difference in being able to sail in heavy weather and actually wanting or needing to sail in heavy weather.
Just because I can does not mean I want to!
As a matter of fact, I will do whatever I can to avoid choppy, windy nasty conditions. It is a lot of work, not comfortable and although it is rewarding, "hey, we survived!" nothing I look forward to ever!

We have averaged about 2000 miles a year on our current sailboat, with the exception of this year and the year our female Scottish Terrier had puppies in July. Much of that was sailing but far, far too much of it was motor sailing.
We tend to get 6 or 7 great sails in every year. Those moments where all of the efforts pay off. Those are truly magical days that we will miss as we move to our Tug. What will not be missed are the many hours motoring to Block Island against 20 knots of wind on the nose for 4 hours while baking in the heat and bouncing in the disturbed waters off of Point Judith or at North Reef. Those moments are not so magical and are far too common for my tastes. I guess I'm ready to make the move in the opposite direction.
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Just to be fair, here is one of the good ones...
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Does anyone go from a trawler to sail?

That makes sense.

But, the romance! The connection with the sea!

When it comes to sailing I have no idea what I'm talking about. I am just thinking out loud
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Just to be fair, here is one of the good ones...

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Oh, so it's not always like that? 😁
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Oh, so it's not always like that? 😁
Ha! When it is nice out I tend to have a camera out taking photos and videos. Not easy when it is choppy. I'll go see if I can find any!
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Hey Bob, just curious, why did you sell and get into a trawler? When did you make the change?
Long story. Lived aboard and cruised for six years. Wife wanted back on land, sold boat and bought house. Looked for motor sailer but couldn't find one we liked and could afford. Thought about doing the Great Loop and bought present boat with that in mind. Read more about the loop and decided it was not for us, too many schedule restraints, too many boats going to the same places at the same time, not our style.
Galveston Bay is not, in our opinion, the ideal place for a power boat. Really no place to go for just a weekend, no isolated coves to anchor out, etc. With a sailboat you can at least just sail around the bay for a day.
If boat doesn't sell we might consider parking it somewhere on the East Coast and then cruise the Atlantic ICW for a month every so often. Of course that would eliminate my escape plan for when the kids come to visit.
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Thought about doing the Great Loop and bought present boat with that in mind. Read more about the loop and decided it was not for us, too many schedule restraints, too many boats going to the same places at the same time, not our style.
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Not our style either but we've loved doing the loop. On schedule restraints, I'm assuming you're talking about only being able to cruise NY and the Great Lakes from May through September or so. That is a restraint. Too many boats to same places at same time is a matter of choice. You don't have to travel in packs with the others, we haven't. Will you be around other boaters in most areas? No more so than anywhere else in peak boating season. In fact, on the loop there are many places to escape the crowds.

Can't say whether the loop is right for you, but can say there are an infinite number of ways to cruise it and don't think because many choose to do it one way, that's the only way. The AGLCA members tend to like the camaraderie of sharing the experience and running a bit as groups of people. That's the very nature of their association, especially those most active. It's somewhat like those who enjoy doing weekend group cruises vs. those who prefer to go independently. You will definitely see a lot of places nothing like Galveston. Everyone has their own favorite areas too.
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