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Old 08-16-2016, 03:10 PM   #21
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If someone offered me a Fisher motorsailer as trade for my Nordic Tug, I'm not sure what I would do...
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Old 08-16-2016, 03:26 PM   #22
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The romance of sailing disappears quickly to me if I have to do all the work. We've had some incredible days sailing. Off the coast of Fort Lauderdale, Annapolis, Cancun, Cabo San Lucas, and San Francisco some that come to mind quickly. But we got to just enjoy in ideal sailing conditions and location and someone else doing all the work that accompanies sailing. To do it all the time, we couldn't deal with the slow speed, nor having to work so much at it.

The nice thing for us is that as we do it, it's still a very nice vacation day from our full time vacation. It's much like fishing to us. We love the occasional day fishing on a charter with a professional who knows what he's doing. We do that about the same amount we sail.

It's a bit of the situation where when you boat all the time, then what do you do different for a change of pace and that's where sailing and fishing fall for us.
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Old 08-16-2016, 03:27 PM   #23
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No I wouldn't... but...

I find myself really missing the peace, quiet, and relaxed feeling I had while sailing. So, I'm toying with either buying a sailing dinghy (Gig Harbor), or building one (love the nesting PT-11) for puttering around the bay. That way I can have the best of both worlds.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:17 PM   #24
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You don't have to be totally out in the weather on a sailboat. Lots of sailboats have pretty complete cockpit enclosures. I even know a few people who have an outlet from the heating/cooling system in the cockpit. Basically I am talking about the same sort of enclosures you see on a lot of fly bridges. I have friend with a 49' center cockpit boat with a full enclosure and heat/cool system vents in the cockpit. His cockpit is like another room. He does have to run the generator to run the heat/cool, but his boat uses so much power that he needs to run the genny anyway.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:21 PM   #25
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Dude: Why compromise? A Fisher Pilothouse or even this spiffy Beneteau 46 Cabinetta!
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:40 PM   #26
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You don't have to be totally out in the weather on a sailboat. Lots of sailboats have pretty complete cockpit enclosures. I even know a few people who have an outlet from the heating/cooling system in the cockpit. Basically I am talking about the same sort of enclosures you see on a lot of fly bridges. I have friend with a 49' center cockpit boat with a full enclosure and heat/cool system vents in the cockpit. His cockpit is like another room. He does have to run the generator to run the heat/cool, but his boat uses so much power that he needs to run the genny anyway.

I always had the same feeling about full enclosures on a sailboat cockpit that I do with full enclosures on a fly bridge. If you need a full enclosure added, then you bought the wrong boat. A full cockpit enclosure on a sailboat significantly inter fears with the sailing of the boat. It is fine if God boat is simply being used as a FD power boat, but if that is all you are going, better to buy a power boat.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:49 PM   #27
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I agree with your wife, that makes us both crazy.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:59 PM   #28
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I know a guy who did the Great Loop in his trawler. He wintered in Boot Key Harbor and the hard core sail-boaters got to him. He sold the trawler, bought a sailboat and now has dream of sailing around the world.
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:00 PM   #29
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If someone offered me a Fisher motorsailer as trade for my Nordic Tug, I'm not sure what I would do...

Every time I see a Fisher on yachtworld my knees tremble a little. My wife knows beyond any doubt I'm nuts and she decided sailing is not for her the first time she saw one slap the mast into the water.
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:30 PM   #30
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Every time I see a Fisher on yachtworld my knees tremble a little. My wife knows beyond any doubt I'm nuts and she decided sailing is not for her the first time she saw one slap the mast into the water.

there you go, eradicate the dreams of closet sailors.

My 43' OA has several if not most windows that have fractures. The previous owner told me that the pass they were heading thru stood the boat straight up in the air and luckily they fell down going forward, and upon contact the windows broke. Glad it wasnt me, I stood a 24' boat up like that once, I really dont think a 43'er would be much fun.

Just sayin...
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:42 PM   #31
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Dude: Why compromise? A Fisher Pilothouse or even this spiffy Beneteau 46 Cabinetta!

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That actually looks kind of cool.
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:47 PM   #32
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Does anyone go from a trawler to sail?

So this boat I'm kind of sorta but not really looking at is a Beneteau 46.

Any of you sailor types (or surveyors) have opinions on this builder? I don't need the best of the best, but I don't want junk either. I've heard some of y'all slamming the Beneteau "fast trawler" or whatever they call it due to crappy thru hulls and other problems I can't remember.

How would a Beneteau compare to an Island Packet on build quality? I have an Island Packet and it seems pretty solid with good systems, wiring, etc.
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Old 08-16-2016, 06:59 PM   #33
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My wife knows beyond any doubt I'm nuts and she decided sailing is not for her the first time she saw one slap the mast into the water.
Well luckily that didn't deter me...although a bit scary at the time.
Funny story is when we made the maneuver we did manage to stay on the boat, although I was standing on the rail. Gerry held on to some line and we righted quickly. We both were glad no one was nearby to see our sailing skill.
I was upset that in his grip on the rope he cut his hands and bled all over the sail... that I had made ( sewn!) It was a catboat and a monster size sail. I know I'm a heartless wench, but do you know how hard it is to get blood out of dacron?

Next day some wise guys at the marina said..."that was a nice move you made"
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Does anyone go from a trawler to sail?

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Old 08-16-2016, 07:15 PM   #35
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I have a mast and boom on my trawler. So when I need my sailing fix, I just crank on my winch for awhile.
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Beneteau is a good builder of production sailboats. Now, I say that with a bias in favor of Catalina, another production sailboat builder but the Beneteaus are fine.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:27 PM   #37
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Can`t remember the name, but I`m sure a TF member posted about selling the trawler to return to sailboats. Maybe the same person mentioned in post 7 above.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:35 PM   #38
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Can`t remember the name, but I`m sure a TF member posted about selling the trawler to return to sailboats. Maybe the same person mentioned in post 7 above.

The Promise or Compromise I believe was the boat name. Not sure of the screen name.
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Does anyone go from a trawler to sail?

Comparing a Beneteau with an Island Packet is like comparing a Chevrolet with a Cadillac. Nothing at all wrong with either vehicle but.........which would you really rather have?


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That would obviously be the logical thing to do. Why did you have to break out the logical argument-- I'm in romantic mode here!

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Then you'd make the perfect sailboater...full of wanderlust and far from reality!!!! Hence boats that sit in marinas and collect dust...and rust!!!
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