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04-28-2015, 06:50 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
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Needs vs. Wants
Thought this would b interesting;
What did you buy for your boating lifestyle that represents a "want," rather than a "need?"
I'll lead off with my new Garmin Autopilot Wireless Remote. Definitely a want, not a need.
And here's another want. Not sure what it is but I sure do want it! (Nordy?)
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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04-28-2015, 07:44 PM
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Scraping Paint
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In terms of significant items, I can't think of any, at least not for our PNW cruising boat. Our other two boats are a bit of a different story, but they are not cruising boats in the TF sense of the word and so their purposes are very different and tend to include a fair number of "wants."
For our PNW cruising boat, my wife has a few "wants" on board, particularly in the case of the galley. Things like a miniature Cuisinart, specific pots and pans and other utensils. She doesn't need them in order to prevent us from starving on board, but she wants them in order to pursue her interest in cooking.
I suppose we have a few "wants" in the toolboxes, things that I wanted to have but haven't needed (yet).
But in terms of the boat's systems from propulsion to electrical, electronics, anchoring, sanitation/plumbing, dinghy/motor, and so forth, everything we've acquired has been driven by a specific need. We've kept this 1973 boat very stock, so we don't have any stuff like flatscreen TVs and whatnot on it because we're not interested in that sort of thing. I guess the barbecue we installed long ago could be considered a "want" and not a "need."
We are currently having all new upholstery/cushions made for the main cabin of our PNW cruising boat. Expensive proposition and while we certainly "want" it, it's a project that was driven by a long-standing "need" --- the main cabin upholstery/cushions were tired when we bought the boat over 17 years ago and now the foam is so shot it's like sitting directly on the wood underneath them.
Neither one of us is much for buying something just for the sake of buying something. Pretty much everything we acquire, from new vehicles to iPads to cameras to you name it, is almost always driven by a need.
What we do, however, is research the purchase very thoroughly and buy the best product we can get for whatever the purpose is on the theory that if we get the best, most suitable product it will meet our need for a long, long time.
This isn't to say we don't want things, but the things we want are invariably driven by the fact we that we actually need them.
A good example from another thread on this forum is the discussion on digital anchor rode counters for anchor windlasses. We cannot think of any advantage this would give us in our anchoring process, so we not only don't need it, we don't want it.
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04-28-2015, 08:00 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 47 Hull# 12
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That's a N86.
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Thanks, Oliver
M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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04-28-2015, 08:20 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
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Thanks Oliver. Do you know the owner? Did you give him a gift of boat shoes? Don't imagine he needs them. What a beautiful boat.
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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04-28-2015, 08:21 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
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Thanks Marin. Great reply.
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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04-28-2015, 08:34 PM
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Guru
City: South FL
Vessel Name: Oliver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
Thanks Oliver. Do you know the owner? Did you give him a gift of boat shoes? Don't imagine he needs them. What a beautiful boat.
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No!
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Thanks, Oliver
M/V Oliver
Nordhavn 47 Hull #12
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04-28-2015, 08:36 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
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RTF
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04-28-2015, 08:40 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
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OMG, I pushed RT over the edge.
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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04-28-2015, 08:53 PM
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Enigma
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Greetings,
Mr, hm. Au contraire mon ami. There IS no edge and it's a great tune from a fantastic tour.
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04-28-2015, 08:55 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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My whole boat is a want not a need. This is my 6th boat. The other 5 were purchased to make money with. Ok, I also have a kayak and a dingy. Can't think of anything that has gone into my refit that was a need instead of a want. See no point in trying to deny the obvious.
Ted
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I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
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04-28-2015, 09:08 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
My whole boat is a want not a need. ...
Ted
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Excellent point!
Nevertheless, given that having a suitable boat is necessary for one's mental/emotional needs ... my two-sail stabilizing system is a want rather than a need since I boat in protected waters. But funds became available when cancelling the teak-deck option ... and as a former sailor, having small sails with lines to pull was appealing.
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04-28-2015, 09:14 PM
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Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
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"My whole boat is a want not a need."
That's a given in this thread. But, what have you bought "for your boating lifestyle" that was a want, not a need?
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Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
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04-28-2015, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Cool Water
Vessel Model: C&L Puget Trawler
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I don't need a boat. I wanted one!
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04-28-2015, 09:24 PM
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Guru
City: Venice Louisiana
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A shrimper "needs" a boat. A tow Captain "needs" a boat. Lots of people need boats, just not us here on TF. My thoughts are that we dont really need a boat therefor we dont really need anything for it. Now "wants" ,I gotta lot of those.
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04-28-2015, 10:02 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N4712
That's a N86.
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That beauty has been gracing the Vero Beach Marina for some time now.
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04-28-2015, 11:03 PM
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Guru
City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
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I wanted on of these:
I certainly don't need one for light or heat but that makes no difference.
Got this in a boat shop in Poulsbo today. I have no willpower!
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What kind of boat is that?
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04-28-2015, 11:16 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
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All wants, some just more wants than the other wants.
I think then of those wants that minimally must be fulfilled, not for safety, not for necessity, but for us to be happy boaters.
So here's one most of you would consider wants not needs but to us communications is an absolute need. One, we do have a business to keep in communication with but, two, we are children of a technology and communications era and we want internet, want television and want to be in touch with family and friends. So, communications is a want that we need.
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04-29-2015, 03:37 AM
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Guru
City: Madeira Beach, FL
Vessel Name: Seaweed
Vessel Model: Schucker mini-trawler
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I needed my Seaweed for my happiness quotient. I would be miserable without my home.
I pay $60 per month for 7 gigs of wifi via Verizon. It was lonely without my imaginary friends (that'd be you)
That's a definite want and a pleasure too.
I'd say my Kindle is a want that became a need. I've run out of books while living on the hook so having a plethora of choices at my fingertips is an amazing thing. I love the Kindle.
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04-29-2015, 05:32 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hmason
"My whole boat is a want not a need."
That's a given in this thread. But, what have you bought "for your boating lifestyle" that was a want, not a need?
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Ok ok, I need to get my refit finished as it's approaching a year, because I want to get on with my cruising.
My Rocna anchor, my Bruce anchor (now the backup) was perfectly adequate, but it wasn't new technology. When it comes to anchors, you need something more than adequate.
Ted
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Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
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04-29-2015, 05:53 AM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
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All I need is a 3.5 hp ob for the dinghy. I bought a 9.9 instead so I can plane off.
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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