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02-09-2019, 05:13 PM
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Guru
City: La Conner Wa.
Vessel Name: Sea Fever
Vessel Model: Defever 49 RPH
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 877
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Do you need to buy marine/Rv toilet paper?
Just came across this test of various brands of toilet paper on YouTube.
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02-09-2019, 05:26 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,964
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Scott Comfort Plus single ply. 24 rolls for $5.48 at Walmart. Disclaimer, our toilet is a Marine Elegance that has a built in macerator. Nothing resembling TP comes out of the holding tank on pump-out.
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Irish Lady
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Currently in Cape May, NJ
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02-09-2019, 06:42 PM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I recall some time ago that Peggie Hall, the Headmistress, saying that any single ply tissue works well. Within a few hours of flushing with that kind of TP there is nothing left of it but tiny cellulose particles.
David
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02-09-2019, 07:08 PM
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City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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Put a piece in water and see if it dissolves
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02-09-2019, 07:18 PM
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City: Ashland, MA
Vessel Model: 1990 Silverton 40 aftcabin
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,208
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We use Charmin 2 ply extra strength. We have two marine head, the Elegance and a Raritan something, one of their better models prior to the Elegance. Both electric and fresh water. Never, ever had a problem. I avoid the so called marine paper, nothing much worse than stained fingers
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02-09-2019, 08:03 PM
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Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand
I recall some time ago that Peggie Hall, the Headmistress, saying that any single ply tissue works well. Within a few hours of flushing with that kind of TP there is nothing left of it but tiny cellulose particles.David
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Doesn't even have to be single ply...but not just any single ply either. If you want to find out whether any TP is safe to use in a marine toilet, tear off a sheet or two and put it in a mason jar or big glass of water. Come back in a couple of hours and stir the water. If the water is milky and all that's left of the TP is "snow," it's the same thing as "marine/rv" TP...but if the sheet(s) is still intact or mostly intact, try another brand.
--Peggie
"If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't completely understand it yourself." --Albert Einstein
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02-09-2019, 08:05 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Phoenix
Vessel Name: King of Nothing
Vessel Model: Hampton Endurance 658
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 27
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Peggy, thanks for keeping it simple.
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02-10-2019, 05:44 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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" Come back in a couple of hours and stir the water."
Some British folks prefer shaken , not stirred.
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02-10-2019, 06:09 AM
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Senior Member
City: Rockford, IL
Vessel Name: Du NORD
Vessel Model: Albin-25
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 350
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We use quality paper from home in our Nature's Head composting toilet. We do not see any paper other than a bit around the edges away from the stirring crank when dumping.
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02-10-2019, 07:11 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,036
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FF
" Come back in a couple of hours and stir the water."
Some British folks prefer shaken , not stirred.
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Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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02-10-2019, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member
City: Albany, N.Y.
Vessel Name: Tranquility
Vessel Model: Trojan F32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 116
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I have never used marine or RV toilet paper and I never had a problem in over 40 years.
I do what Peggy said, put a few sheets in a glass of water and shake it up. If it breaks up after being in the water 10 or 15 minutes it is safe to use in my boat.
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02-10-2019, 08:57 AM
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Guru
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,087
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We don't even bother to do the test. We just use the same stuff we have at home. The electric macerating toilet chews up everything... short of screwdrivers, wet wipes, and so forth.
-Chris
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02-10-2019, 10:39 AM
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City: North Carolina for now
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We bought whatever was marked "septic safe" at Costco or Sam's. Sometimes that was Scott's single ply..... which for the finicky quickly becomes double or triple ply with a fold or two... All worked great for over 6 years full time live aboard with one particularly high per-flush usage crew member included. Vacuflush heads.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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02-11-2019, 11:34 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
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I missed this thread. Larry pointed me to this thread, thanks again, after I made a duplicate post yesterday.
I am going to "assume" that a manual flush toilet, like the Jabsco without a macerator, would handle most septic safe TP fine. That is what we use at home because of our septic system. No sewer systems here. I'm planning to us PVC in the boat for our waste lines and only use sanitary hose for the connections to the toilet(s) and waste tank(s). I've read around the internet that PVC can help prevent smells and clogs. It's on the internet so it's gotta be true.
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02-11-2019, 12:30 PM
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City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
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I've been following Ms. Peggy's advice for years with success - and the stuff is cheap, to boot.
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02-11-2019, 12:44 PM
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Guru
City: Ashland, MA
Vessel Model: 1990 Silverton 40 aftcabin
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,208
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
I missed this thread. Larry pointed me to this thread, thanks again, after I made a duplicate post yesterday.
I am going to "assume" that a manual flush toilet, like the Jabsco without a macerator, would handle most septic safe TP fine. That is what we use at home because of our septic system. No sewer systems here. I'm planning to us PVC in the boat for our waste lines and only use sanitary hose for the connections to the toilet(s) and waste tank(s). I've read around the internet that PVC can help prevent smells and clogs. It's on the internet so it's gotta be true.
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Ben- I have used PVC for poop over the last 35 years or so, first in a sailboat and now in my Silverton. PVC WORKS! And best of all it is less expensive than stinkie hoses. I suggest that you consider using electrical PVC 90 degree sweeps for corners rather than normal fittings that could lead to ‘stuff’ getting stuck making the turn.
Good luck—
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02-11-2019, 01:27 PM
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City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,515
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I am going to "assume" that a manual flush toilet, like the Jabsco without a macerator, would handle most septic safe TP fine.
Maybe maybe not. Keep in mind that wet wipes are labeled "flushable" and "septic tank safe" but should NEVER be flushed down ANY marine toilet, manual or electric macerating (or household toilet either...they're causing million$$ in damage to municipal sewer systems all over the world). If you go with the results from the test in post #6 you can easily find out whether any TP is safe to use in a manual toilet. However, volume matters too. An overload of TP can clog any toilet, but the good news is, if you just wait an hour, a TP clog will dissolve on its own. Always add add water to the bowl of any marine toilet ahead of solids...if your toilet isn't designed to bring water in and hold it, use a cup from the sink. You'll use a lot less flush water and the bowl will stay a whole bunch cleaner if you do.
As for hard PVC being more reisistant to odor permeation than hose...that's true--of MOST hoses, but not all. And it's a lot cheaper. But it's really only suitable for long straight runs. Any installation that has more than one or two bends that are tighter than hard pipe can bend require inserting a radius fitting...very many of those and you'll spend the next 5 years chasing down which connection is leaking this time.
--Peggie
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02-12-2019, 07:39 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by foggysail
Ben- I have used PVC for poop over the last 35 years or so, first in a sailboat and now in my Silverton. PVC WORKS! And best of all it is less expensive than stinkie hoses. I suggest that you consider using electrical PVC 90 degree sweeps for corners rather than normal fittings that could lead to ‘stuff’ getting stuck making the turn.
Good luck—
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadMistress
I am going to "assume" that a manual flush toilet, like the Jabsco without a macerator, would handle most septic safe TP fine.
Maybe maybe not. Keep in mind that wet wipes are labeled "flushable" and "septic tank safe" but should NEVER be flushed down ANY marine toilet, manual or electric macerating (or household toilet either...they're causing million$$ in damage to municipal sewer systems all over the world). If you go with the results from the test in post #6 you can easily find out whether any TP is safe to use in a manual toilet. However, volume matters too. An overload of TP can clog any toilet, but the good news is, if you just wait an hour, a TP clog will dissolve on its own. Always add add water to the bowl of any marine toilet ahead of solids...if your toilet isn't designed to bring water in and hold it, use a cup from the sink. You'll use a lot less flush water and the bowl will stay a whole bunch cleaner if you do.
As for hard PVC being more reisistant to odor permeation than hose...that's true--of MOST hoses, but not all. And it's a lot cheaper. But it's really only suitable for long straight runs. Any installation that has more than one or two bends that are tighter than hard pipe can bend require inserting a radius fitting...very many of those and you'll spend the next 5 years chasing down which connection is leaking this time.
--Peggie
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Thank you both for your replies. I'm hoping for a straight gentle run downhill to the tank. I'm probably not that lucky though.
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02-12-2019, 12:55 PM
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Member
City: Eastern seaboard ICW & into Canada
Vessel Name: mv Destinees
Vessel Model: 1996 40' Marine Trader Sundeck
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Yes, RV toilet paper. There are some that are very nice to use. Additionally, as a lady I find it easier to use the adjacent shower head spray to rinse so no toilet paper is needed, except when actually needed. The clean water remaining on the body can be patted dry using the same cloth, hanging on the side of the tub or peg, that is used to wipe-down the shower or tub. Spread the cloth high in the compartment to be dryer and wash it weekly, so it is always clean and fresh.
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02-12-2019, 01:06 PM
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Senior Member
City: Vancouver
Vessel Name: Sea Q
Vessel Model: Westport Mc Queen
Join Date: May 2015
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