View Poll Results: What heading sensing device(s) do you have on your boat? Select all that apply
Traditional magnetic compass 59 85.51%
Fluxgate compass 42 60.87%
Rate compass 23 33.33%
Satellite compass 12 17.39%
None (only use GPS or other) 5 7.25%
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:35 AM   #1
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Do you have a heading sensor?

There has been an interesting discussion on electronic vs mechanical heading devices, which has morphed into a disccussion of other types of heading devices, etc.

Let's see how our boats are equipped with this poll.
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:50 PM   #2
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I suppose my AP20 must get confused. It has a fluxgate compass. The nmea 2000 network has a rate compass for a heading sensor. Then there is whatever the plotter is telling it off the GPS fixes.

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Fluxgate compass for the Commav autopilot and a kvh 1000 for radar overlay on the SH cp590.
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Having not read the other thread first, I misunderstood your question and didn't include the traditional magnetic compass. My assumption, from your question, was a heading sensor that imputed heading to your chart plotter.

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I'm surprised that magnetic compass isn't 100%, as a boat with much size at all comes with one unless we have a lot of folks on this forum with 16 ft runabouts and canoes.

I'm also surprised that 40% have a flux gate or rate compass... that's a lot.
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Anyone with an autopilot has a minimum of a flux gate.

My guess the active folk on this forum own something larger than runabout and canoes...though they may own them in addition to their larger boat.
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Yes. 2 of them.
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Do you have a heading sensor?

In my 1st post I failed to list that I have a mechanical compass at each helm besides the 2 electronic. I use them mainly for verification of the 2 electronic and for holding a course on the lakes, don't really use any on the river.
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Yes. 2 of them.
Canoes or compasses?
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Anyone with an autopilot has a minimum of a flux gate.

My guess the active folk on this forum own something larger than runabout and canoes...though they may own them in addition to their larger boat.
This boat and the previous two I had with autopilots did (do) not have flux
gates, just regular "whiskey" compasses.

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Yes I have a heading sensor. It was needed for radar overlay on the chart plotter.
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This boat and the previous two I had with autopilots did (do) not have flux
gates, just regular "whiskey" compasses.

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Wood Freeman?

Otherwise, how did they steer?

I guess I should have modified it with most boats with auto pilots.
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Wood Freeman?

Otherwise, how did they steer?

I guess I should have modified it with most boats with auto pilots.
One of my early charter boats had a Wood Freeman with the magnetic compass and sensor on the bottom.

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psneeld,
This boat has a Wagner Mark4 pilot head and magnetic compass with a
4 1/2 inch card. It controls a Wood Freeman 110 volt dc power pack, I
think I would need more knowledge of it before I would "dig" into it.

The previous boat I put a Comnav 2001 pilot on with a compass with
a 9 or 9 1/2 card, (still have the compass, considering a change).
It controlled a set of solenoid valves, the hydraulics were driven off
the DD 3-53 engine.

Prior to that I had a Cetrec ,the compass was magnetic, mounted in
an enclosed case. The power was a reversing electric driven hydraulic
pump.

The best unit was the Comnav 2001.

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Interesting...other than a few wood freeman on commercial boats here and there.....

Usually nothing I have driven has had anything but flux gate or rate.....even the commercial boats.

I apologize, didn't think there were that many compass card driven autopilots out there....for one guy to have 3 in a row.
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I too had two magnetic compass driven outopilots in a row. Admittedly they are now very old units, the first on my present boat, installed in 1980, the other on my last sailboat, installed in 1982. Both driving Wagner S-50 Autopilots, and doing a very good job of it. When I replaced my Wagner with a Raymarine Autopilot a few yrs ago, I kept the magnetic compass at the helm, though it is merely a decoration now, as a fluxgate drives the newer autopilot.
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On my sail boat ( Pacific Seacraft 37 ) I have the standard cockpit bulkhead mounted spirit compass (very nice to look at by the way, and I use it constantly), and an Airmar H2183 solid state compass, integrated into the N2K network, providing data for the MFDs and the autopilot.

On my, new to me, Krogen 39, I intend to use, not only the standard spirit compass located at the helm, but, integrated into the N2K network, an Airmar 220WX, mounted on the mast, which includes essentially the H2183 electronic compass as part of it's features (beside WX stuff, and a current technology GPS sensor, 10HZ, WAAS, etc.,).
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Canoes or compasses?
Both.
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3 sources (Magnetic, AP and GPS).....all read differently. I've gotta get on that..
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5 GPS/Chartplotters (One chartplotter/GPS and one GPS in PH, one chartplotter/GPS on FB and two built in on the VHF radios). One fluxgate in AP (I have dual AP but I think they share the one fluxgate), one standard magnetic compass.

So seven in all.

Plus one wife telling me where I am going who is always on.
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