Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-25-2015, 06:19 AM   #1
Guru
 
Hawgwash's Avatar
 
City: Sidney
Country: Canada
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,265
Ditch Bag

Looking at various ditch bags I wondered how many boaters actually have one and...

What's in it?
How big is it?
Where do you keep it?

Did you buy a prepackaged one, make your own or a combination?
I've looked at several online and they all seem to have something others didn't.

Do you rob from it?
How vigilant are you about keeping it current?
__________________
Advertisement

Hawgwash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 07:06 AM   #2
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,887
Mine just consists of important papers and electronics, PLB, and a couple strobes, flashlight. I should add a first aid kit.


But that is a ICW ditch bag.


Many places and more offshore legs would include a bit more.


I go under the premise... stay within USCG helo range, operate in good weather and you should be in a 4 hour rescue window.


Venturing out of that comfort zone and it would grow to one of the more standard ones full of water and survival equipment...such as the PNW venturing up the inland passage.
__________________

psneeld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 07:43 AM   #3
Guru
 
Wayfarer's Avatar
 
City: Oneida Lake, NY
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Radio Flyer
Vessel Model: Wilderness Systems Aspire 105
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 784
I have a floating ditch bag, which I stocked myself. I change out the perishables and things that expire annually. I keep flares, orange smoke, a flashlight, water, first aid kit, and a few clif bars, and a waterproof floating sleeve for my phone in there. I also keep my floating handheld vhf close by, on the charger. I really should get a plb, but haven't yet.

I'm rarely out of sight of land. The farthest I've been from the nearest coast guard station is probably 30 miles.
__________________
Dave
Just be nice to each other, dammit.
Wayfarer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 07:54 AM   #4
Guru
 
caltexflanc's Avatar
 
City: North Carolina for now
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Small Incentive
Vessel Model: Boston Whaler 130 Sport
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,792
Our boat came with an 8 person Avon life raft that had all the basic essentials in it, which were checked and refreshed when recertified. In addition, when headed offshore, had one separate with another mirror, EPIRB, water, handheld vhf, some food bars, additional sunscreen and small first aid, flashlights, etc.. Also took this with me when heading out on expeditions on the Whaler. Depends on where you are going to be.
__________________
George

"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
caltexflanc is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 08:20 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
shufti's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Wine Down
Vessel Model: Riviera 35' FB
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 188
My ditch bag was put together initially for my 4.4m fishing boat which i regularly went outside 15-30nm solo in. It now get swapped between it and my Riv depending on which is being used (epirp is registered to both boats).

Epirp
Torch (+spare set of batts)
mirror
2 x inshore flare kit (each has 2x smoke and 2 x night time flares)
2 x packs of 2each parachuteflares
4 x dyepack
V-sheet

I don't rob from the grab-bag. I test Epirp and torch every few moths.
shufti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 08:35 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
Vashon_Trawler's Avatar
 
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
Country: USA
Vessel Name: M/V Sherpa
Vessel Model: 24' Vashon Diesel Cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 426
I mainly cruise through the ICW and generally no more than 10 miles off the coast. We keep a range of supplies in the various pockets of our Type III life jackets. Each jacket contains the following: two small parachute flares, glow stick, dye pack, LED flashlight, whistle, 10' cord, mirror, and a multi-purpose knife/tool. I keep my handheld VHF in a water tight bag and in easy reach on the galley counter.
__________________
“Go small, go simple, go now”
― Larry Pardey, Cruising in Seraffyn
Vashon_Trawler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 09:03 AM   #7
Newbie
 
City: Miami
Country: USA
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1
Ditch Bag

I go offshore so, besides the obvious I have:

Handheld VHF
Watertight place for Cellphone
Hand held GPS

Lots of water!
GPATRON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 09:09 AM   #8
TF Site Team
 
Larry M's Avatar
 
City: JAX, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Hobo
Vessel Model: Krogen 42-120
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,734
Add some cash, spare glasses and passports (or copies)
Larry M is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 09:59 AM   #9
Guru
 
Off Duty's Avatar
 
City: Tampa
Country: USA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 843
Pretty much the same gear as the rest for close inshore travels on a power/sailboat.

I have another which is strictly designed for use on our airboats. The contents are similar but different due to the environment in which we operate. I wrote an article on the ditch kit for the airboating community, which was published in one of the major airboating magazines a couple of years ago.

Always believe in being prepared.

OD
__________________
"I'm the only one who has removed half a brain, but if you went to Washington, you'd think someone beat me to it"...Dr. Ben Carson 08-06-2015
Off Duty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 10:25 AM   #10
Guru
 
twistedtree's Avatar
 
City: Gloucester, MA
Country: USA
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,187
We've got a ditch bad in addition to the life raft and its contents. I don't know the exact list, but it includes first aid, VHF, PLB, flares, mirror, food, water. It's basically an extension/expansion of what's packed in the life raft, focused on things that are too big to pack in the raft (like a VHF), and things where you would want larger quantities if you were in the raft for a long time.
__________________
www.MVTanglewood.com
twistedtree is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 10:56 AM   #11
Guru
 
cappy208's Avatar
 
City: Cape Cod
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slip Aweigh
Vessel Model: Prairie 29
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,131
Ditch Bag

In addition to the excellent comments of what should be IN the ditch bag. I suggest actually practicing with the signal mirror. On a sunny day, make arrangements with a fellow boater who will be several miles away and try to flash each other. It is a learned art on actually hitting the target. The bigger the mirror the easier chance you have to make contact. The actual bronze (chrome plated. ) 3.5" X 4.5" with the beveled hole in the center for aiming are the absolute best and beat the pants off the cheapo plastic ones
cappy208 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 11:08 AM   #12
Guru
 
psneeld's Avatar
 
City: Avalon, NJ
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Freedom
Vessel Model: Albin 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15,887
Be advised that seeing a flash from a signal mirror will not necessarily attract the attention of rescuers unless in the middle of no place.


Within 100 miles of the US coast...there are enough boats where windshield reflections distract rescue crews continuously.


If they left a search area every time they saw a flash, an accurate, completed search would be tough.


If you do flash...make sure it is about as NON-random and quick as possible to really get someone's attention.


In high traffic areas you might attract attention...but my experience is that non-rescue units rarely go too far out of their way unless pretty sure there is a confirmed emergency.


Counting on a few flashes is a bad bet.


My theory on a ditch bag is...fill it with survival gear for the long haul...or fill it with EPIRBs and PLBs to ensure a reasonably quick rescue.
psneeld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 11:36 AM   #13
Guru
 
cappy208's Avatar
 
City: Cape Cod
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slip Aweigh
Vessel Model: Prairie 29
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,131
That was sort of why I said practice with a mirror. It is possible to pretty much keep a signal ON a target up to several miles away IF you practice with it first. Trying to gain proficiency while in a raft, after you've lost your glasses makes it really difficult to learn how to aim a signal mirror.
cappy208 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 11:46 AM   #14
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
We have a fairly large one. It has flare guns and other signalling devices, waterproof first aid and survival manuals, first aid kits, a few basic tools, a waterproof handheld VHF radio, etc.
Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 04:44 PM   #15
GFC
Guru
 
GFC's Avatar
 
City: Tri Cities, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Beachcomber
Vessel Model: Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,688
I have most of the things listed above by others and I have them all in watertight plastic jars or bottles.


One thing not listed above is I got a prescription for some Hydrocodone, a strong narcotic pill to throw in the bag just in case someone gets badly injured or burned.

I started doing that when I lived in AK. We would go off road on hunting trips and be several days away from a doctor or hospital. I also got some when I helped take that boat to CA two years ago. I've never taken any of them, but they're nice to have in case of a broken bone, etc.
__________________
Mike and Tina
Beachcomber 1995 Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
GFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 08:52 PM   #16
Guru
 
SCOTTEDAVIS's Avatar
 
City: Vero Beach, FL.
Country: US
Vessel Name: FIREFLY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 913
I have an extra wallet with cash and a credit card in case I am not able to grab (find) my wallet. I also have in addition to a VHF an aircraft handheld (an older one replaced when I got a new GPS/VHF Navcom).

I picked up a prepaid throwaway cellphone for less then 50 bucks that I have in a waterproof bag that uses AA batteries and figured why not as finding my cell might be a problem if time is short.


You may only have 2 min.

Read this...

The Marine Installer's Rant: One hundred and twenty seconds
SCOTTEDAVIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2015, 11:23 PM   #17
Guru
 
Hawgwash's Avatar
 
City: Sidney
Country: Canada
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,265
Lots of good input.
Thanks everyone.
Hawgwash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2015, 11:14 AM   #18
GFC
Guru
 
GFC's Avatar
 
City: Tri Cities, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Beachcomber
Vessel Model: Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,688
That article has caused me to rethink some of the procedures I'd put in place. Thanks for that link.
__________________
Mike and Tina
Beachcomber 1995 Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
GFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2015, 12:17 PM   #19
Guru
 
SCOTTEDAVIS's Avatar
 
City: Vero Beach, FL.
Country: US
Vessel Name: FIREFLY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 913
Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC View Post
That article has caused me to rethink some of the procedures I'd put in place. Thanks for that link.
It did with mine as well, my bag may be all I get my paws on so it has been augmented with items as stated above, it is kept front and center while underway.

I also added 2 manual PFD's inside for my wife and I as well as an automatic PFD wire tied to the outside in case I need to toss it ahead of me.


I have rethought my plan of untying and launching the dingy as now a luxury if I have time.

We cruse coastal, always within sight of land (admiral's orders)


Fire could chase you over the side very quickly as well.
SCOTTEDAVIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2015, 01:52 PM   #20
Guru
 
AusCan's Avatar
 
City: Adelaide
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Kokanee
Vessel Model: Cuddles 30 Pilot House Motor Sailer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,095
I agree with most of the suggestions, although I'm surprised at the number of people suggesting wallets, cash and credit cards.

Does King Neptune take payments in any currency?
__________________

AusCan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012