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11-12-2018, 07:02 PM
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Ding Engine
Very close to purchasing the 11.5 Bull Frog.
They use Tohatsu, which are apparently fuel injected.
In our area, the most common Ding engines are Yamaha and Honda. We had a Yamaha on a past ding, and it was a work horse.
Bull Frog will also put a Honda on, so I am asking for the 30HP.
I realize all of these modern engines are all good these days and there is not much difference, but wondering if anyone has any experience with the newer Honda 30?
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11-12-2018, 07:29 PM
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I would opt for the Yamaha. Service is plentiful in most areas and is the gold standard these days. We use them on our work boats at the marina and they work flawlessly.
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11-12-2018, 08:55 PM
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... and its Dink...
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11-12-2018, 09:06 PM
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You say Dink, I say Ding. I also call it the little boat. When my kids were small, it was “Lil Will”. Did you have anything related to my question to add?
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11-12-2018, 09:43 PM
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HaHa Fletcher I had no idea what you were talking about.
Honda’s are great but BullFrogs are heavy.
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11-12-2018, 10:26 PM
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Given a choice between Tohatsu and Honda I would opt for Honda.
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11-12-2018, 10:29 PM
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11-12-2018, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
... and its Dink...
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Thanks for this... I was going to say something but you beat me to it!
HOLLYWOOD
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11-12-2018, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher500
You say Dink, I say Ding. I also call it the little boat. When my kids were small, it was “Lil Will”. Did you have anything related to my question to add?
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Yamaha.. Yamaha.. Yamaha
HW
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11-12-2018, 10:34 PM
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I thought the thread was about a new Chinese built engine,but it`s not.
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11-12-2018, 10:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
I thought the thread was about a new Chinese built engine,but it`s not.
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I was right there with you!!!
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11-12-2018, 11:41 PM
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Yamaha would be my first choice too. And I would reject any engine that doesn't have fuel injection. It makes the engine MUCH more immune to fuel degradation because it's not exposed to air throughout the engine. Plus they start and run much better. I had a Yamaha 40 on our last tender (see, there's another name for ) and it was awesome.
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11-13-2018, 05:39 AM
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In a choice between anything and something else...
I'd want fuel injection.
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11-13-2018, 07:55 AM
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I didn’t realize my Ding description would cause such a ruckus with Dink Police.
Good feedback on the engine. I was also wondering about the Carb vs. injection aspects.
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11-13-2018, 08:36 AM
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My vote is for fuel injection. Cleaning carbs SUCKS. And on a 30hp I would favor a three cyl vs two cylinder.
And 30hp is a lot of power for 11.5ft, but about the smallest that you can get three cylinders.
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11-13-2018, 08:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fletcher500
You say Dink, I say Ding. I also call it the little boat. When my kids were small, it was “Lil Will”. Did you have anything related to my question to add?
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Did I just get dinged?
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11-13-2018, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Did I just get dinged?
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Dinked
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11-13-2018, 10:59 AM
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So, is it a dinghy or a dinkhy? Does size matter?
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11-13-2018, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ski in NC
My vote is for fuel injection. Cleaning carbs SUCKS. And on a 30hp I would favor a three cyl vs two cylinder.
And 30hp is a lot of power for 11.5ft, but about the smallest that you can get three cylinders.
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^^^^This^^^ And Yamaha FTW. If you have to choose between Tohatsu and Honda, I would go Honda. But that is personal preference as they are both good. Isn't Tohatsu Suzuki anyway?
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11-13-2018, 11:15 AM
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A Suzuki is a Suzuki. A Mercury is a Tohatsu. Isn't the 30 HP Honda carbureted?
I looked into this somewhat thinking I was going to buy a 20 hp for my Bullfrog, the internet consensus seemed to be Suzuki over Tohatsu. Both are fuel injected. But I've decided to go electric instead.
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