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Old 04-27-2015, 02:27 PM   #1
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Diesel polish system

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Please do someone knows how to build an custom diesel polishing system at a razonable cost?
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:31 PM   #2
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Yes.
Where are you located?
What do you need the system to do?
What kind of boat? Motor?
How many fuel tanks?
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I live in Brazil and my boat is a 39 fiberglass trawler with twin MWM 4 cil engines with 85 HP each. I have 2 Inox tanks with 800 liters each. The diesel quality here is not so good,
and I want a system capable to keep the fuel as clean, pure and water free as possible.
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Yes.
Where are you located?
What do you need the system to do?
What kind of boat? Motor?
How many fuel tanks?

Richard,

Did you build a system for Dauntless? If so, I would love to get the plans.

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I will be gratefull to receive it.
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This is the one I built for our boat. It cost me close to $500 less the two racors as I already had those.
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Here's a really good one that you can build yourself.

Captn Wil's Fuel Polishing System: Trawlers & Trawlering How To

For most purposes, going to a multi progressive filtering system will do the job unless the fuel is really awful, as in very old, bottom of the barrel stuff. Sticking one of the big Fleetguard filters in front of a traditional two step filter set up (primary and engine mounted).Good idea to have this in place anyway, polishing system or no, if you do not have consistent access to clean fuel.

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Please do someone knows how to build an custom diesel polishing system at a razonable cost?

What do you consider as razonable ?

The cheapest system in the long run is to increase the size of your fuel filters and buy some extra filter elements and take the boat out into some rough seas for several hours.
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OK.
I'll see if I can find a picture.

I like my system a lot. It has served me well and would have served even better had I run it more often after leaving horta. The only problem was the nut behind the wheel.

It's 12v and features a Racor 900 and a manifold that allows me to transfer fuel between the tanks. The only limitation is is that I can only polish the fuel in the tank that the engine is using. this has turned out not to be a issue.

I'll look for the manifold cost. Installation was a day or less.
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OK.
I'll see if I can find a picture.

I like my system a lot. It has served me well and would have served even better had I run it more often after leaving horta. The only problem was the nut behind the wheel.

It's 12v and features a Racor 900 and a manifold that allows me to transfer fuel between the tanks. The only limitation is is that I can only polish the fuel in the tank that the engine is using. this has turned out not to be a issue.

I'll look for the manifold cost. Installation was a day or less.

Great! Thanks.

I am able to transfer fuel between tanks now, although the fuel transfer pump is very slow and loud. I can't imagine using it to polish the fuel.


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Polishing may clean the fuel IN the tank, but the gunk stuck on the side walls will not be cleaned.

This usually takes scrubbing thru a hand hole.

When thr motion of the ocean becomes enough to move some of the crud , your are back to clumps in the fuel.

A day tank might help , as would a set or two of filters with a dash momitor of the suction across the filterr banl.

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Great! Thanks.

I am able to transfer fuel between tanks now, although the fuel transfer pump is very slow and loud. I can't imagine using it to polish the fuel.

I just measured the transfer rate on mine the other day using a Walbo pump. 30 GPH, just as rated. With (2) 60 gallon tanks this is fine for my small boat.
When in "Polishing/transfer" mode (one valve on the right to either polish/transfer or run) it pulls through a large 27 micron Fleetgaurd filter and a 10 micron Sierra. When in Run, it also pushes through a Racor and on engine primary filter. Transfer direction and tank selection done with my existing valves. Very simple. Just added a pump and 3 way valve to make it all work. <$200

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Don't forget to teat your fuel too after you polish it.....

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Don't forget to teat your fuel too after you polish it.....
Don't worry.....This all started after this discovery...:

(No bugs, but plenty of Asphaltines..)

Funky Fuel filters....>>
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unless you already have many of the components or can source them cheaply you will likely find a ready-made unit more cost-effective than building one.

With my Reverso the manifolds allow draw from any tank and return to any tank. It can also purge air from engine filters and supply lines.
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Don't forget to teat your fuel too after you polish it.....

I'm all for "teats" but why use an expensive additive unless you are letting the boat sit for a long time after polishing? And if so, why polish in the first place?
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I'm all for "teats" but why use an expensive additive unless you are letting the boat sit for a long time after polishing? And if so, why polish in the first place?
Well if you are investing in your cleanout as I did, then treating the fuel on fill up or every 6 months is good preventative maintenance. A $30 bottle can help you save big $$$
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Mr. ASD. "...Teat..." ?? Thanks Mr. cal. I missed that one. I'll admit, I have NO idea where THIS thread is going...Apologies to Mr. lan...

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Well if you are investing in your cleanout as I did, then treating the fuel on fill up or every 6 months is good preventative maintenance. A $30 bottle can help you save big $$$
Why? is the boat in storage?
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Storage is not a hassle , water in the fuel allows the bugs to have a place to live.

Get rid of the water , and the tank will stay clean , almost forever.

Poison goop may kill the bugs for a while , but does not solve water the problem.

Old fuel clumping is no problem as most filters can easily handle big clumps.
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