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Old 10-16-2014, 09:35 AM   #21
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Mark - it's two repetitions for "Dive" and three repetitions for "Surface"
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:46 AM   #22
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correct me if i am wrong on this:

Jet A and JP5 are the same and, with the exception of some quality control aspects, the same as Kerosene(number 1 fuel oil). Which is a lighter distillate than number 2 fuel oil (diesel).

Diesel on and off road are now the same (less the dye) and home heating oil is the exact same as off road (dyed) diesel.

Be sure to stay away from Jet B...which is a kero-gasoline blend...that would be bad news for a piston engine.

With some added lubrication number one oil can be safely used in diesel engines...especially older mechanical ones. In newer common rail applications where fuel pressure can reach 30,000PSI i would be a bit more suspect of making a habit of using 100% number 1. but i don't see why it couldn't be mixed in with either bio or dino diesel.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:10 AM   #23
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Just for fun I contacted Klaxon, and the price for their LHD9 (9hp) is $854.00 US.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:23 AM   #24
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Kerosene, and JP-4,5 burn fine in a diesel engine. I have burned thousands of gallons of 'Jet Fuel" in DD and Cummins engines.



We had a grey fergie tractor at home (Massey ferguson) that ran on TVO; you started it on petrol, then switched to TVO (tractor vaporising oil) when it was hot. It's a mixture of diesel and petrol: sort of!

Irrc it was a standard petrol engine running at about 8/1 comp with spark plugs.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:31 AM   #25
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But not capable of running on diesel?
At least not in the US. I remember my BRP tech showing me pictures of a V6 model that did but only sold outside the US.
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Old 10-16-2014, 10:44 AM   #26
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Just for fun I contacted Klaxon, and the price for their LHD9 (9hp) is $854.00 US.
At that price it has to be worth a bit of a gamble!

I liked the smaller engines that looked like a standard slow running diesel pump engine; no hi-tech alloys.

The bigger 40hp model looks like a different kettle of fish!
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Old 10-16-2014, 11:18 AM   #27
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In the specs it is described as air cooled. Probably a Yanmar clone mounted on what looks like a Tohatsu chassis clone. Basically a lawnmower engine with a diesel injector. Reliable? Who knows.
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:46 PM   #28
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In older engines , as a get home ,the kerosene stove fuel could be burned IF a quart of lube oil was added to 5gal of kero .
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In older engines , as a get home ,the kerosene stove fuel could be burned IF a quart of lube oil was added to 5gal of kero .
That's what I heard too; it's the lubrication of the injector pump that's the problem.
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Older diesels, (not HPCR or emission or computer controlled injector) engines are remarkably tolerant to most any low volatility fuel including,

Diesel # 1, #2, #3, ULSD Bio-Diesel from B5-B100.
Civilian jet fuel, Jet A1, Jet A and Jet B
Military jet fuel, JP-4, JP-5
Kerosene
Home heating oil
*SVO (straight vegetable oil)

Some issues exist with SVO and Bio such as growth of critters, and gelling.

*SVO requires a heat sourse to heat the fuel as it goes to the engine to safely use this fuel, starting on SVO is mostly impossible and the engine needs to be started on diesel until heat is present before switching over.

2 cycle outboard oil is a great, inexpensive and easy to find lubricant that will restore needed lucubration to ULSD and is designed to burn with no ash or carbon buildup. I add 8oz to every 10 gallons of ULSD in all my diesel fuel engines.
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Mark - it's two repetitions for "Dive" and three repetitions for "Surface"
You're so right. Thanks!

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