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Old 05-30-2019, 07:22 PM   #1
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Did I lengthen my boat??

So, the question is: by increasing the length of the boarding step extend the length of the boat?. Is the purest among us going to agree, as the harbor masters do, or is the actual manufactures measurements to be the holy grail.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:25 PM   #2
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Get out the tape measure - it's called LOA for a reason!
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Before anchor pulpits became almost the norm, the hull length was the length charged. The swim step was ignored. At least on the Salish Sea. Then marinas began to not fit the boats in the slips because a 38xx covers more like 42 feet and is going to hang out of a 38’ slip at one or both ends. When I add my 9’ Livingston I add another foot or so. But the boat is still a 38. I just use 42-44 feet of dock.
So, yes, your boat got longer.
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In my opinion your boat didnít get any longer, but your marina fees increased.
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The more important question is: is it a boarding step or a swim platform?
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The more important question is: is it a boarding step or a swim platform?
When the water is too cold to swim it becomes a boarding step.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:23 PM   #7
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When the water is too cold to swim it becomes a boarding step.
Wonder how many board via the swim platform - we don't, ever.
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We board via the swim platform when we are swimming, other than than I never have.
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We board via the swim platform when we are swimming, other than than I never have.
That's not boarding - that's getting out of the water!!
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Al,
Sorry but get a grip. You’re boat is as long as it is and re what you state you made it longer. The swim step and the dinghy sure is nice though.
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I think even the CG cracked down on this. Now a permanently attached swim platform counts as overall length. That is supposed to be why an AT34 is now an AT365. Manufacturers don't necessarily object, as they can now advertise a longer boat without changing a thing.
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Al,

When did you get a bigger boat?
Does it fit in the same slip? Does the Harbor Master want more money?
Looks like a good place to store a cooler full of AA!
Cheers!
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Start with the builder's OAL. That is the documented length. If you add something that makes the boat longer, swim platform, that is between you and the harbor master.
The documented length aka, the builder's OAL doesn't change.
To truly utilize the swim platform, you need to find someone willing to sleep on the swim platform.
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You need to put some more context into this. If this is about your slip charge, well Iím dumbfounded. The only two people who can answer that question is you and the person that you entered into a contract with, which by definition is why you have the contract in the first place because opinions differ and the two f you have an obligation to each other to define the agreement you are entering into before you wind up in a disagreement that cant be solved. Nobody elseís opinions matter.
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So, the question is: by increasing the length of the boarding step extend the length of the boat?. Is the purest among us going to agree, as the harbor masters do, or is the actual manufactures measurements to be the holy grail.


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Menzies: The more important question is: is it a boarding step or a swim platform?

I fretted for several hours deciding between the two! As there is a new access through the stern to the item in question, and as there is no side access save the portable stool dockside, away has a high step for the first lady. so access away is via this step. (We drop the RIB stand off on the side involved), so your question is valid and answered by individual desires. Thanks, AmJ



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In my opinion your boat didnít get any longer, but your marina fees increased. Fortunately we still come in under the granted length allowed. however, away at visiting ports this maybe the case although the main visitiong port hadn't counted the length including the RIB on the then, weaver location.




Al,
Sorry but get a grip. Youíre boat is as long as it is and re what you state you made it longer. The swim step and the dinghy sure is nice though.
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Eric, you missed the obvious point of the posting!! Tom on "Alaska Sea-Deduction" arrived in Ketchikan and after a pleasant lunch, took the time to show me how to post photos. As I was learning and in conversation, mention was made on your past efforts to assist. Now perhaps, I can participate in the great "Anchor" debates complete with photos. Cheers!!




Al,

When did you get a bigger boat?
Does it fit in the same slip? Does the Harbor Master want more money?
Looks like a good place to store a cooler full of AA!
Cheers!
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Sorry Chief, your traveling buddy Tom, absconded with the total supply of Alaska Amber. I can not recall the tune title he was humming, but I recall a verse that included "99 bottles of beer on the wall, and the chief gets none at all: or some sort of similar snarly comment.

All, this was posted to show the new swim step/boarding platform with a swing away' Get a home' OB motor. and to demonstrate posting of a test photo. Thanks for all the comments. Good folks here.

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Old 06-01-2019, 11:41 AM   #19
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Love it! Al you are such a pot stirrer!!! This could almost beat the anchor threads.....maybe not!!
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:20 PM   #20
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We own our slips here and have a pretty strict regulation about not hanging out more than 2 feet......Hence about the biggest boat you can put in a 42 foot slip (the largest here) is about 40 feet giving 3-4 feet for platforms, pulpits etc...

I've got lots of elbow room in my 38 foot slip......OR the potential temptation of buying a larger boat...:-)
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