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Old 03-18-2019, 10:28 PM   #1
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My whole boat is NEXUS. I usually just pick up the cell phone call customs give them my BR #ís, takes about 7-8 minutes all while motoring to my intended destination.

Iím wondering, has any one used CBP Roam app? Is it faster than my 7-8 minutes? One possible advantage might be any time the boat has a non nexus passenger.
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:15 AM   #2
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We used it the other day heading into Roche. 2 of us had nexus and one only had his passport. Was quick and easy but don't think it saved any time over calling in if everybody had Nexus. Definitely a great resource. I did end up going into the customs office as we had gone over to get our cruising licenses. The customs officers highly recommended using the app as they would like to see it stick around and were afraid it may get cancelled if it doesn't get enough traffic.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:25 AM   #3
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My whole boat is NEXUS. I usually just pick up the cell phone call customs give them my BR #ís, takes about 7-8 minutes all while motoring to my intended destination.



Iím wondering, has any one used CBP Roam app? Is it faster than my 7-8 minutes? One possible advantage might be any time the boat has a non nexus passenger.


We used it coming in from port Sidney B.C. over the holidays. It was great. Couple of things. First they are starting to push people to the app to save on manpower. Second, you do have to be connected to a US carrier when you check in with the app. We checked in too early while still connected to bell Canada and we got an email stating our request to clear into the US was rejected. When we called they asked us to try again when we got ATT service and it all worked perfect. I think once you hit the US cellular coverage it will save time because unless they call you to ask some specific questions you will simply get a clearance number via email and you are done.
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:45 AM   #4
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I believe CBP is now the only way used on the east coast
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Its too bad there isn't a similar APP for doing the opposite; entering Canada. NEXUS certainly helps but I believe if you go back and forth, say you're in the Great Lakes, you can use CBP ROAM entering US... but still have to call a phone # entering Canada.
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Old 03-19-2019, 12:25 PM   #7
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With the navy a few years ago after leaving St. Augustine on our way to Charleston outside.

Off Jacksonville, we heard a security call telling us that live fire was about to commence and to come no closer to USS navy ship x than five miles. We were in our sailboat the and the ship mentioned was a mile ahead of us.

I kept going straight. Some thunderstorms were forecast for Jacksonville area and I needed to make tracks north. The naval vessel left and two hours later we hear same radio message about a live fire exercise. The boat in question was again about a mile ahead.

The vessel hailed us and told us to turn west for five miles before heading north. I replied I would not, and that because storms were forecast I would maintain speed and heading. Navy didnít like it, but I out ranked everyone aboard those vessels.

A few minutes later the ships weather gurus came back and confirmed weather issue. The shipped asked me to turn west 30 degrees for two miles and then continue north. The weather person assured me I would miss the storms.

I turned and we had no other issues. Makes one wonder with naval vessels that can turn 30 knots, why 5hey choose to exercise in the spring, in a route used by so many cruisers.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:34 PM   #8
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Makes one wonder with naval vessels that can turn 30 knots, why 5hey choose to exercise in the spring, in a route used by so many cruisers.
Our question exactly - why do live fire exercises on a late May Sunday afternoon in an area which was a direct line from the Abacos to one of the most popular entry inlets - Fort Pierce.

Somebody wasn't thinking or didn't care .
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My whole boat is NEXUS. I usually just pick up the cell phone call customs give them my BR #ís, takes about 7-8 minutes all while motoring to my intended destination.

Iím wondering, has any one used CBP Roam app? Is it faster than my 7-8 minutes? One possible advantage might be any time the boat has a non nexus passenger.

I used the app last summer. Turns out it was the first day it went live here in WA. The CBP officer had not done it before so it was a learning experience for both of us. It worked well. I still want to get NEXUS, but until I do the app works well.
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Old 03-19-2019, 08:50 PM   #10
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With the navy a few years ago after leaving St. Augustine on our way to Charleston outside.



Off Jacksonville, we heard a security call telling us that live fire was about to commence and to come no closer to USS navy ship x than five miles. We were in our sailboat the and the ship mentioned was a mile ahead of us.



I kept going straight. Some thunderstorms were forecast for Jacksonville area and I needed to make tracks north. The naval vessel left and two hours later we hear same radio message about a live fire exercise. The boat in question was again about a mile ahead.



The vessel hailed us and told us to turn west for five miles before heading north. I replied I would not, and that because storms were forecast I would maintain speed and heading. Navy didnít like it, but I out ranked everyone aboard those vessels.



A few minutes later the ships weather gurus came back and confirmed weather issue. The shipped asked me to turn west 30 degrees for two miles and then continue north. The weather person assured me I would miss the storms.



I turned and we had no other issues. Makes one wonder with naval vessels that can turn 30 knots, why 5hey choose to exercise in the spring, in a route used by so many cruisers.


Iíve been on the other end of this issue. It sucks when live fire exercises are delayed because some self righteous boat wonít clear the advertised area. Navy ships shouldnít schedule live fire quals in the spring? Your personal cruising plans are more important than their pre-deployment training?

The worst part - it appears you are proud of yourself.
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Iíve been on the other end of this issue. It sucks when live fire exercises are delayed because some self righteous boat wonít clear the advertised area. Navy ships shouldnít schedule live fire quals in the spring? Your personal cruising plans are more important than their pre-deployment training?

The worst part - it appears you are proud of yourself.

No pride. As captain of my vessel I made a safety decision. My point was not that the Navy should not exercise when it wants, only that it could easily exercise further from shore so as not to involve lanes or used by boats returning north. In 30 minutes the exercising boats could have bee far enough from shore not to involve most traffic.

Nothing self righteous about keeping my vessel and crew safe. Were I the operations officer planning exercises I would ensure my exercises were in little used waters. With an entire ocean at its disposal I find it difficult understanding why the Navy would exercise so close to shore.
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I just used CBP Roam when returning from Bahamas to Florida. It took a few minutes to input all the info in advance, but the actual submittal and approval was quick and easy. I did it on the way into Lauderdale and got an approval number in minutes. Very easy and efficient.
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No pride. As captain of my vessel I made a safety decision. My point was not that the Navy should not exercise when it wants, only that it could easily exercise further from shore so as not to involve lanes or used by boats returning north. In 30 minutes the exercising boats could have bee far enough from shore not to involve most traffic.



Nothing self righteous about keeping my vessel and crew safe. Were I the operations officer planning exercises I would ensure my exercises were in little used waters. With an entire ocean at its disposal I find it difficult understanding why the Navy would exercise so close to shore.


As captain of your vessel you placed your boat and your crew in harms way. This is an excerpt from the most recent Notice, similar to the Notice in place during your [more-important] cruise:

ATLANTIC OCEAN - GEORGIA - FLORIDA - JACKSONVILLE: U.S. NAVY EXERCISES HAZARDOUS TO SURFACE VESSELS
The following areas will contain exercises hazardous to surface vessels in the Jax/Chasnoa during 11-17 March, 2019. Mariners are advised to avoid these areas:
Date: 11 -17 MAR 0000-2359 (LCL) 30-45N2 80-56W9 GUNEX AREA 30-45N2 80-30W1 W-137L

You donít get to decide where these vital exercises take place. It is a logistic challenge for the USN/USCG to schedule.
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As captain of your vessel you placed your boat and your crew in harms way. This is an excerpt from the most recent Notice, similar to the Notice in place during your [more-important] cruise:

ATLANTIC OCEAN - GEORGIA - FLORIDA - JACKSONVILLE: U.S. NAVY EXERCISES HAZARDOUS TO SURFACE VESSELS
The following areas will contain exercises hazardous to surface vessels in the Jax/Chasnoa during 11-17 March, 2019. Mariners are advised to avoid these areas:
Date: 11 -17 MAR 0000-2359 (LCL) 30-45N2 80-56W9 GUNEX AREA 30-45N2 80-30W1 W-137L

You donít get to decide where these vital exercises take place. It is a logistic challenge for the USN/USCG to schedule.
Get of your high horse. I did not place my vessel in harms way. Just the opposite. If the Navy, with its vast resources can not find a space less used by recreational boaters, we seriously have bigger problems.

Using such language as ďvital exercisesĒ obfuscates the issue. As a retired officer I can tell you that not all exercises are vital. I can tell you that planning mistakes and conflicts happen. The fact that the Navy came back and found a solution that worked for everyone Is evidence enough that we could both accomplish our missions.

I never said I get to decide when, what I did say is that holding a live-fire exercise on a heavily traveled route was perhaps not the best choice. I said that if the ships had travelled 30 minutes further east, the Navy could have been more certain that it would not encounter tourists.
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The danger areas are clearly marked on the NOAA charts which refer a prudent captain to Notice to Mariners for further information. Obviously ignored, thereby placing your vessel and crew at significant risk. In your initial post you stated ďNavy didnít like it, but I out ranked everyone aboard those vesselsĒ. Who is on the high horse?
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