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Old 07-09-2019, 02:37 PM   #1
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Canvas enclosures and storms

Those of you with full canvas enclosures, do you remove them ahead of a tropical storm/minimal hurricane or leave them up?
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Old 07-09-2019, 02:43 PM   #2
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While we typically donít have hurricanes in Michigan, I would remove the enclosure if I was in a hurricane zone when one was coming my way. The enclosure really isnít designed to stand up to the sustained winds for very long. Also it adds windage to your boat which will strain your dock and dock lines more. I would remove the enclosure and then tape up any openings to help keep the driving rain out of the boat.
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I fold my two bimini's up and boot them when thunderstorms are approaching. For tropical storms and Nor'easters I would remove the canvas and lash the frame. For a hurricane I would seriously consider removing the frame. You would be surprised at the windage even a frame will add during extreme winds.
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Hey da Stars! Take 'em down. Winds forecast 25-44mph Sat. thru Sun. evening for Northshore area. Cover or better yet remove electronics. Lots of rain; 3-4ft rise in tides. Going south of you to move fishing boats further inland on Thurs. Be safe!
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Hey da Stars! Take 'em down. Winds forecast 25-44mph Sat. thru Sun. evening for Northshore area. Cover or better yet remove electronics. Lots of rain; 3-4ft rise in tides. Going south of you to move fishing boats further inland on Thurs. Be safe!
Thanks and considering they are brand spanking new I really donít want anything to happen to them.

Man, have you see the models rainfall predictions!?!

You be safe too!
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I have a canvas roof over my cockpit. Went through Irma with no problem.
The stitching is giving out so it is time to replace it. I shall do so after hurricane season and this time, add side canvas and back canvas, perhaps sunbrella so I can hang clothes out to dry.
The canvas covering the windows can be mounted outside or inside the boat.

Seems we have a lady board member who firmly believes, she is the queen of the surrounding condo complex and because she also owns a boat slip and everything she says is from heaven.
So far, I told her to go to hell once and she almost swallowed her tongue. LOL
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I take them down if there's a named storm approaching. But then I only keep the top bimini on, and some side-skirts. My feeling is I want to avoid the hassle/expense of replacing them later, so it's worth the effort to remove them in advance. That and if things work loose there's the chance their flapping will harm something else, like a snap or a zipper banging on gelcoat, scratching/cracking it.
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As a corollary, what about solar panels for a named storm? Does anyone take those down?
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As a corollary, what about solar panels for a named storm? Does anyone take those down?
One would hope hard panels are mounted securely enough for that not to be an issue. But if they're flexible, or the poles to which they're mounted have any flex.. it'd probably be wise to secure them.

It's not just direct forces that are the most concern, it's the back/forth of wind gusts causing things to flex, work loose, flap around, etc.
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I have a canvas roof over my cockpit. Went through Irma with no problem.
The stitching is giving out so it is time to replace it. I shall do so after hurricane season and this time, add side canvas and back canvas, perhaps sunbrella so I can hang clothes out to dry.
The canvas covering the windows can be mounted outside or inside the boat.

Seems we have a lady board member who firmly believes, she is the queen of the surrounding condo complex and because she also owns a boat slip and everything she says is from heaven.
So far, I told her to go to hell once and she almost swallowed her tongue. LOL
When you get new canvas made specify Tenara thread. It is warranted for the life of the canvas. I used to live I Tucson and the regular poly thread would last about 2.5 years with the sun there. I started using Tenara and never had any go bad. It costs more but will pay for itself when you don’t need to restitch or replace canvas due to thread wearing out.
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Tropical storm winds or thunder storms I leave mine up.
Haven't been in a hurricane in the water in L I Sound yet but I'd probably take it down.
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When you get new canvas made specify Tenara thread. It is warranted for the life of the canvas. I used to live I Tucson and the regular poly thread would last about 2.5 years with the sun there. I started using Tenara and never had any go bad. It costs more but will pay for itself when you donít need to restitch or replace canvas due to thread wearing out.
Thanks. I have written it down and will enquire when it comes time to refresh my canvas.
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Some fabricators will not want to use Tenara thread because it is slipperier than poly thread. The better fabricators will already be using it. I have my machine setup for Tenara so it isnít an issue. Tenara costs about $130 per spool versus poly at $15 per spool but a spool of Tenara should do an entire boat if not two boats so it really does not make sense to use the cheap thread and have to restitch it even one time.
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Those of you with full canvas enclosures, do you remove them ahead of a tropical storm/minimal hurricane or leave them up?

We removed ours once when a direct hit was predicted. Haven't removed it otherwise... and due to a local even right after we started installing the new enclosure we were having made at the time, I know ours is OK for at least 80 mph winds.

Tenara thread throughout. Our panels are connected by zippers but those zippers are also overlaid with a flap that Velcro's down to cover the zips.

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Hey Stars, windfinder is going nuts with their forecast. Seems they thinking a minimal
hurricane. Hope not!
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Some fabricators will not want to use Tenara thread because it is slipperier than poly thread. The better fabricators will already be using it. I have my machine setup for Tenara so it isnít an issue. Tenara costs about $130 per spool versus poly at $15 per spool but a spool of Tenara should do an entire boat if not two boats so it really does not make sense to use the cheap thread and have to restitch it even one time.
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What is the set up for Tenara on the machine?

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Comodave,

What is the set up for Tenara on the machine?

Thanks.
You have to put more tension on the thread because Tenara is more slippery than regular thread. Some guys that do canvas for a living dont want to mess with changing adjustments. Once you have it set up then I donít mess with the adjustments. I only use Tenara on my machine. I use a hot knife to cut Sunbrella so it wonít ravel. About half the time I use the hot knife to cut through a stitched seam the Tenara will come out the back of the hot knife intact. It is really tough stuff.
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Love the strength of the tenara thread, as CD says , it is worth the money. Don't try to break it by pulling with both hands, you'll cut yourself and the thread won't break.
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