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Old 02-21-2019, 05:28 PM   #1
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California Mandatory Boater Card-1 year Report

A look at the program which turned a year old last month.

https://www.thelog.com/snw/division-...a-boater-card/
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Old 02-21-2019, 07:23 PM   #2
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If I'm still boating six years from now, looks like another boating test for me unless senility overcomes. Not too worried ... aced the power squadron test eight years ago . Also, from past experience, California gun-purchase and driver's-license tests were easily passed too.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:59 PM   #3
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The California test has some real pertinent questions on it like how old do you need to be to operate a PWC and how long must a ski rope be.
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The California test has some real pertinent questions on it like how old do you need to be to operate a PWC and how long must a ski rope be.
Looks like I'll need to research regulations irrelevant to me.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:12 PM   #5
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For reasons like this, I'll never live in California! They have gone bizerk with regulations rules, taxes and BS to make life miserable.

They site the same problems that all the other state have, yet they need to tell people what the heck to do.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:34 PM   #6
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Agree, it’s a horrible place. I am miserable. I just asked my wife, and she said she is as well.
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:40 PM   #7
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ASD, you are a closet pot stirrer.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:20 PM   #8
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I took the test and missed one question out of 60 on the final test and it was a stupid mistake. They try to get tricky by the way they ask the question which only has the affect of making no sense at all. I did one section each night and it took me about a week to finish. I don't feel as though I got anything out of it. After each section they have a test with about 10 multiple choice questions. When I finished the last section - 6 I think - I thought I was done. Ha ha, there was a 60 multiple choice test at the end. It's been a while so my numbers may be off but it was not a quick an easy one hour test. Over all there were probably 120 questions. Many stupid and easy but there were some esoteric questions about markers that I've never seen. Horn signaling and running lights. I think it was 6 parts with 10 multiple choice questions at the end of each section. Then a 60 question test at the end. If I was in my 30s I probably would have finished it in a couple of hours. I'm 62 and spent a full week on it. About 2 hours a night on each section. The final test took me about an hour. But I have my boating card. Whoopee!
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:54 PM   #9
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Most states with water require a boaters card. I took the Oregon one a few years ago. If you ever were licensed, you can do it from memory. The Oregon test was all online. I didn't see any restriction on how often you could take the test. I think the emphasis was on the learning the information, not really pass or fail.
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:43 AM   #10
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correct me if i'm wrong but i think you don't need the card if you are renting the boat! so put it in your spouse's name and pay $1 per year and no problem
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Old 02-22-2019, 01:20 AM   #11
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We got a license law a couple of years back, it was mandatory, but not sure why.
The test was easy, taken online and immediately forgotten.
So I’ve got the license, a full sheet of paper, not a wallet card, so I’m not even real sure where it is anymore!
I’ve never been asked to produce said license for boat registration, state slip rental, coast guard boarding, insurance purchase, or any reason whatsoever.
Just another way for the state to spend our hard earned dollars on a program that has no purpose and no consequences.
Reminds me of the military, “No reason sailor, just policy”.
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Old 02-22-2019, 07:43 AM   #12
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One trip to Lake Havusu will convince you as to why CA needs a boater card. Several trips will convince you as to bikini tops defy Galileo's tests from the apple tree.
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So it's a short term knowledge test with no practical (actual operating) component, that earns you a card good for life. Well isn't that just great. Maybe somebody should point out to the States that most boating accidents aren't caused by a lack of rule knowledge, but instead by intentionally not following the rules or the inability to actually operate the boat competently.

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Is the Merchant Mariners Credential exempted from the CA card? Quite a bit of knowledge and sea time are necessary to earn the MMC. I assume the cards aren’t needed by drivers of giant container ships entering CA ports.
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In many states an unlimited tonnage license does not exempt you. Still have to know how long a ski rope must be.

They aren't attempting to force knowledge on those who already have a little. As Sunchaser said, it's the kids, drunks, ski boat operators, etc. that are the target. If you look at drowning statistics, something like 95% are powerboats under 24' and in a large percentage of cases alcohol was a primary ingredient.
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For reasons like this, I'll never live in California! They have gone bizerk with regulations rules, taxes and BS to make life miserable.
California is just doing what most coastal states have already done. They're actually being relatively lax, allowing many different options, including on-line testing, that some state's don't. I'm not saying it's good, just not out of line with other states.

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Is the Merchant Mariners Credential exempted from the CA card? Quite a bit of knowledge and sea time are necessary to earn the MMC. I assume the cards aren’t needed by drivers of giant container ships entering CA ports.
Yes, commercial fishing licenses and MMC's are exempt in California. Even other STCW credentials.

Again without endorsing the concept, my take on these boater education requirements is that it forces every boater (or in the case of on-line courses, some friend or relative of every boater) to sit and think about how little knowledge and experience they really have.

It introduces them to the concept that there ARE rules out on the water; that it's not a free-for-all out there just because there are no stop signs, red lights or traffic lines.

Yes, they'll quickly forget a lot of the details. But they'll know that they don't know it all. From what I've seen out on the water, there is a lot of value in that.
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ASD, you are a closet pot stirrer.

Who little ol' me?

RT is the Commander and Chief pot stirrer............
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Old 02-22-2019, 12:03 PM   #18
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I took the voluntary course in Alaska. Paid my $10 for my card.

In Washington, I sent in a copy of my Alaska card, with $10 and received a Washington Card.

mmmmmm $10 here, $10 there..something smells like rotten fish..
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I took the voluntary course in Alaska. Paid my $10 for my card.

In Washington, I sent in a copy of my Alaska card, with $10 and received a Washington Card.

mmmmmm $10 here, $10 there..something smells like rotten fish..
Yeah, but you sent them your picture. You do look pretty Salty, but hide the AA!
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Tennessee started a program a few years ago. Test is proctored at public libraries, etc. Required for operation of a motorized vessel, but exempted boaters born before 1989(?). Most questions involved safety equipment, alcohol restrictions, right of way, no wake zones, safe operation of a PWC. Most accidents in TN involve PWCs and young drivers.
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