|
|
06-07-2017, 04:26 PM
|
#1
|
Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,093
|
California boating card
I, for one, am glad to see this. Starting January 1, 2018 we'll phase in a demonstration of boating knowledge. We'll have to show a bit of proficiency to operate a boat. Right now, anyone in California can operate a boat. All they need is a checkbook!
Q: When will operators be required to have a Boater Card?
A: The new requirement will begin on Jan. 1, 2018 for all persons 20 years of age and younger who operate a motorized vessel on state waterways. On that date these boaters will be required to carry a boater card issued by DBW, unless they meet certain exemptions stated below.*
Each year after January 2018, a new age group will be added to those who are required to possess a valid card. By 2025, all persons who operate a motorized vessel on California waters will be required to have one. Once issued, the card remains valid for a boat operator’s lifetime. California Harbors and Navigation Code Section 678.11(b) contains the following phase-in schedule based on operator age:
• January 1, 2018 Persons 20 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2019 Persons 25 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2020 Persons 35 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2021 Persons 40 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2022 Persons 45 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2023 Persons 50 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2024 Persons 60 years of age or younger
• January 1, 2025 All persons regardless of age
*California age restrictions for operating a motorized vessel: According to California Harbors and Navigation Code Section 658.5, NO person under 16 years of age may operate a boat with a motor of more than 15 horsepower, except for a sailboat that does not exceed 30 feet in length or a dinghy used directly between a moored boat and the shore (or between two moored boats). The law allows children 12-15 years of age to operate boats with a motor of more than 15 horsepower or sailboats over 30 feet if supervised on board by an adult at least 18 years of age. Violating these provisions constitutes and infraction.
__________________
Ray
"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑβΕ
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 04:45 PM
|
#2
|
Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
|
won't make a bit of difference.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:00 PM
|
#3
|
Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,093
|
You're probably right. At least the government can get their hands into our pockets once again.
__________________
Ray
"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑβΕ
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:07 PM
|
#4
|
TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,670
|
I think its a good idea particularly for the younger boaters. Similar to when I got my drivers license after I did drivers ed. I was able to drive 6 months sooner by law and a year earlier because of parental guidelines and I did learn something.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:11 PM
|
#5
|
Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
|
After 15 years of teaching the NJ course...the biggest thing I see as a benefit is the card is something that can be taken away from bad boaters. Because it is a requirement...stiffer fines or sentences can be applied.
As far as changing behavior....it might take a decade or more.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:15 PM
|
#6
|
Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,605
|
This is another one of those great ideas that makes loads of sense in theory......but will probably be useless in application.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:18 PM
|
#7
|
Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
This is another one of those great ideas that makes loads of sense in theory......but will probably be useless in application.
|
Not at all...it is a great idea...just not going to proliferate boating knowledge...as my post indicates.
Without a safety certificate or license, how do you penalize a bad boater?
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:27 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
City: CA
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 177
|
Another money grab by jerry and his minions. RENTAL boaters are exempt. How safe is that? Then jerry wants to tax our canoes and kayaks. It is ALL about the money.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:33 PM
|
#9
|
Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJim
Another money grab by jerry and his minions. RENTAL boaters are exempt. How safe is that? Then jerry wants to tax our canoes and kayaks. It is ALL about the money.
|
If like most states, the requirements for the courses don't add much if at all....like NJ.... to the state coffers.
Without more research...Boat US states that you can get certified in CA for free if you do their online course.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:59 PM
|
#10
|
Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
|
I think it is a great idea. No, it won't solve everything. However it does demonstrate that at the very least the boater has reviewed the material. WA state has been doing this for a while. It is not expensive to get a WA boating education card and it isn't expensive for the state to administer. It does provide LEOs a legit reason to pull an idiot off the water if they don't happen to have their card with them.
Just because an idea won't solve all ills doesn't make it a bad idea. Every new requirement from a government entity is NOT simply an attempt to get money from you.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 05:59 PM
|
#11
|
Guru
City: Sydney
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,646
|
The law allows children 12-15 years of age to operate boats with a motor of more than 15 horsepower or sailboats over 30 feet if supervised on board by an adult at least 18 years of age
LOL. As I see it here in Australia the above make up 50% of our water ways problems the other 50% is Jet skis
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 06:01 PM
|
#12
|
Guru
City: Windsor
Vessel Name: Keeper IV
Vessel Model: 44 Viking ACMY
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,350
|
In Ontario we have the same requirement for a boating card. The problem is it also is somewhat useless as you can write it online so there's no security as to who is actually writing the exam.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 06:13 PM
|
#13
|
Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
|
Not sure this will apply to me since I'd be 78 if I'm not still "kicking" when the requirement applies. Nevertheless, I'm undaunted since receiving a 100% grade on the basic Power Squadron test five years ago (as well as the state's firearms test.) Yes, I know I'd need to take another test. ... Does anyone really expect increased compliance with the ColRegs?
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 06:50 PM
|
#14
|
Veteran Member
City: Puget Sound
Vessel Model: Currently boatless
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 92
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
... Does anyone really expect increased compliance the ColRegs?
|
I would say that if boating in WA is an example, then the answer is NO. I have seen all sorts of large and small boats do stupid things in just the past year. Things that were taught in the two evening course that my wife and I took to get the boating card. The lack of knowledge and following the rules of the road is amazing.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 06:55 PM
|
#15
|
Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
|
True...but before the issuance of some sort of card or license, what could an LEO do?Easy Peezy to see that.... why the hard sell that it will "educate people" when those of us in the business know better?
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:05 PM
|
#16
|
Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
[B] As I see it here in Australia the above make up 50% of our water ways problems the other 50% is Jet skis
|
Fortunately, don't see much of this activity here. (Waters are often rough. Doesn't apply to deep in the Delta.)
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:18 PM
|
#17
|
Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,605
|
so what happens in Washington if an Oregon boater ventures in WA waters ??
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:20 PM
|
#18
|
Guru
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,021
|
Just another "feel good" lib law that will have no effect.
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:33 PM
|
#19
|
Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancora
Just another "feel good" lib law that will have no effect.
|
Maybe, maybe not....no or small cost to taxpayers in some states that have implemented....and only time will tell...
What is the downside? Making people actually prove they can spell boat?
|
|
|
06-07-2017, 07:36 PM
|
#20
|
Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
so what happens in Washington if an Oregon boater ventures in WA waters ??
|
In NJ, if you can not prove any source of boating safety training...you are kindly asked to leave.....and even then I will bet there is little or no pressure if out of state and you look/act like an experienced cruiser..
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Trawler Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|