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Old 02-03-2012, 02:11 PM   #21
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Here it is.

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The name and hailing port of a recreational vessel must be marked together on some clearly visible exterior part of the hull. The vessel name of a commercial vessel must also be marked on the port and starboard bow and the vessel name and the hailing port must also be marked on the stern. All markings may be made by any means and materials that result in durable markings and must be at least*four inches*in height, made in clearly legible letters of the Latin alphabet or Arabic or Roman numerals. The "hailing port" must include both a place and a State, Territory, or possession of in the United States. The state may be abbreviated.
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Old 02-03-2012, 02:35 PM   #22
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My broker (selling my 28' Bayliner wrote the following):


I checked*with (internal contact, specifics removed) and**he advises me that for a state-registered boat it's no issue (what's on the transom is irrelevant: in fact the state identifies the boat by hull-number, tied to your WA number on the bow... same for insurance), but for a documented boat it might be ... what shows as the boat's name and home-port on the documentation MUST be also painted on the transom.
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For what it's worth, the documented name ignores "symbols" so your document would show CESC as the name of the boat, and your transom-painted name just has a lot of "punctuation"... hehe
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and if you want to get relly obscure, the "home port" does not have to even be a city on the water -- it only needs to have an official post-office in the named community.
I haven't decided if I'm going to document through the USCG, but if I don't, then this seems to confirm what I've been hearing -- namely that the name on the boat is meaningless -- its the registration*number on the bow that matters, and I could do whatever I want for the printed name.* At least in Washington State.
All Interesting information...
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Old 02-03-2012, 05:16 PM   #23
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Our Arima is registered in Washington State and it doesn't have a name at all. Well, it does--- Malolo--- but it is not lettered on the boat nor is there any reference to the name on the state registration form. In fact I don't think there is even a space for a boat name on the state registration form but I could be mistaken on that.

We didn't even "name" the Arima until a year or two after we bought it (and registered it). Washington State couldn't care less what you name your boat as it plays no role in the boat's registration.

So if you don't document your vessel, you can name it whatever you want in this state, including whatever punctuation or symbols you want to use.

As for emergencies, while the USCG or Canadian Coast Guard will ask for the name of the boat, they are far more interested in its description (make, color, etc.) and its exact location. That is the information they use when broadcasting requests for assistance.
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:16 PM   #24
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mattkab wrote:I haven't decided if I'm going to document through the USCG, but if I don't, then this seems to confirm what I've been hearing -- namely that the name on the boat is meaningless -- its the registration*number on the bow that matters, and I could do whatever I want for the printed name.* At least in Washington State.All Interesting information...
*Are you planning to go to Canada with the boat?* If so, will it make a difference if it's not USCG documented?
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:47 AM   #25
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I've never taken one of my own boats into Canada, so I have no firsthand knowledge.

From what I understand, though, both documented and state registered recreational boats can transit the border with no restrictions, other than normal border crossing rules. USCG documented vessels have an "easier" time doing so, especially in regard to commerce and trade. I like the idea of documenting the boat, though, and will probably do it.

We plan to take our boat up to Canada at some point, but not in the next year or two. There are many, many excellent cruising destinations closer to home that we would like to re-visit, or see for the first time.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:04 PM   #26
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In Washington State, you have to register your boat regardless of documentation or*State titled.

I go to canada several times each year and have been*doing so*for 30 plus years.* It's pretty much the same as taking a car or motorhome across the border.* I don't think they really care if a recreational boat is documented or titled.* They usually want your boat registration, passport(s), ask if you have firearms on board, how much alcohol, how long*you're staying.* If they are busy that's usually it.* If they have the time they may look in the fridige and a few cupboards.

My experience only, but usually they are the busiest and understaffed at*Bedwell on the BC side and San Juan Island on the US side.* If you go to*either you may have to wait during the summer months.* With boat skippers following the customs officers up and down the dock, usually they just exam your paperwork and let you go.

It can be a real goat frolic in the summer months.

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Old 02-04-2012, 01:08 PM   #27
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Matt, what is the boat you are rowing in your avatar, it looks nice. Will you be using it for your dinghy?
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Old 02-06-2012, 11:13 AM   #28
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*Are you planning to go to Canada with the boat?* If so, will it make a difference if it's not USCG documented?

*No, you can take any boat to Canada as long as it has the appropriate paperwork.* It can be documented or it can be state registered.* Same with returning to the US, of course.* We use our documentation number and that's what's on file now so that's what Canadian and US customs use.* But if we went across using our Washington registration, that would be fine, too.* And of course, you have to have the approprate personal identification, too.

Larry--- Bedwell is a breeze these days.* There is still a manned office but they don't care about your boat uniess they're told by the main office to inspect it.* Clearing in is by phone outside the office and there is a bank of them.* We have never had to wait to clear customs and since we're in the "system" clearance has usually taken only about five minutes.
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:09 AM   #29
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One more thing required for Americans cruising in Canada - radio licenses.

Youre not required to have them in US waters, but if youre heading across the border you do need two FCC radio licenses one for you, and one for the boat. The Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit (for you) is issued for life. The Ship Station License (for the boat) must be renewed every ten years.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:54 AM   #30
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The dinghy in my Avatar is a 9' Livingston that goes with the Bayliner that I'm selling (it has all the davits hooked up and what not).

The dinghy I had planned to use on my next boat I'm building in my garage (picts attached) -- it's a 10' v-hulled sailing dinghy. However, now that I have looked around on our new boat, I don't think I have a convenient place to store it, so it may just become a weekend sailor and fishing boat for local lakes.

The current boat does come with an inflatable.

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