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Old 06-26-2014, 01:19 PM   #1
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Burned yacht...

Passed by the South Bay boatyard and took some photos of what's left of the Polar bear...
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:25 PM   #2
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Impressive how much remains....if she were fiberglass or aluminum it would just be a puddle on the ground. Looks like this may become a boat again someday.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:32 PM   #3
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I've been around a boat that had a minor fire (shore cord burned up some fiberglass around receptacle). It's been two years since the repair and everytime I step on the boat you can smell that burnt electrical odor.
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Impressive how much remains....if she were fiberglass or aluminum it would just be a puddle on the ground. Looks like this may become a boat again someday.
You might know better than most. But I find it hard to believe the cost of rehabbing it would be cost effective in the long run. I guess it depends on how deep the damage goes.

It does from the outside look like you could at least save the hull. Even if you had to cut away a great deal on the rest. But then there are all the costs of doing that plus the clean up/ gutting process.
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:31 PM   #5
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You might know better than most. But I find it hard to believe the cost of rehabbing it would be cost effective in the long run. I guess it depends on how deep the damage goes.

It does from the outside look like you could at least save the hull. Even if you had to cut away a great deal on the rest. But then there are all the costs of doing that plus the clean up/ gutting process.
Really impossible to tell anything from a few pictures....but, the paint is still on much of the hull. That paint and steel represent many many man hours that may be purchased at a salvage price from the insurance company. It might pay but obviously is only for those with rather deep pockets.
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:56 PM   #6
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It might pay but obviously is only for those with rather deep pockets.
And willing to accept some salvage karma!
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Hey at this points disaster proof!
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Depending on the clean-up and sandblast cost the hull and perhaps most of the superstructure is still good. Advertise it as a heat treated steel boat
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:21 PM   #9
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:50 PM   #10
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I've been around a boat that had a minor fire (shore cord burned up some fiberglass around receptacle). It's been two years since the repair and everytime I step on the boat you can smell that burnt electrical odor.
Ozone Generators will clean up all odors. Amazon sells them for around 120 bucks. I bought an industrial one and it kills mold, mildew and all odors, period!

Best thing for stinky old boats. Makes them odorless.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:13 PM   #11
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Ozone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the U.S., air purifiers emitting low levels of ozone have been sold. This kind of air purifier is sometimes claimed to imitate nature's way of purifying the air without filters and to sanitize both it and household surfaces. The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has declared that there is "evidence to show that at concentrations that do not exceed public health standards, ozone is not effective at removing many odor-causing chemicals" or "viruses, bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants." Furthermore, its report states that "results of some controlled studies show that concentrations of ozone considerably higher than these [human safety] standards are possible even when a user follows the manufacturer’s operating instructions."[76] A couple kept repeating health claims for the generator they sold, without supporting scientific studies. In 1998 a federal jury convicted them, among others things, of illegally distributing an ozone generator and of wire fraud.[77

My experience too after purchasing a fairly reputable and expensive unit.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:18 PM   #12
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I am very interested in ozone generators. I am going to start a thread so you guys can make more comments...
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I also use an ozone generator on my boat when left sealed up. I set the generator to run for 10 minutes every three hours. The manual for the generator reminds you that ozone eats any neoprene based product when to much is in the air, so ya gotta keep the dosage under watch. One guy in our marina kind-of overdid it with a pretty big ozone generator he left running in his bilge for a week. He says some hoses were wasted.

I keep a portable unit in the head for those long, Sunday paper reading events.
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Those of you using ozone generators have no idea what it might be doing to you. The impact to health isn't immediate but can be serious. Ozone generator manufacturers are notorious for making claims that have never been proved.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:47 PM   #15
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The owner and Captain of Polar Bear are wonderful people. They embraced the total boating scene here in Puerto Vallarta Mexico. Their boat and their crew will be greatly missed here. The boat was beautifully kept, professionally managed and a credit to all involved with her. We will miss her seasonal presence here. It was a privilege to get up in the mornings and sip coffee looking over at her here. What a tragedy, as all boat losses are!
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Depending on the clean-up and sandblast cost the hull and perhaps most of the superstructure is still good. Advertise it as a heat treated steel boat
I would stay far away from that boat. Heat does some funny things to steel. Maybe the hot fire quenched with water tempered it. At any rate steel subjected to high temps is not the same steel as before. We have a couple of metalurgists on the forum like Sunchaser. It will be interesting to hear from them.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:58 AM   #17
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Moonstruck- You nailed before I could post. I'd stay far away from a steel hull after a hot fire as this was. Close examination will show buckling, heaving and general out of lineament so extreme that the cost would be huge and -frustrations many- Good candidate for the scrap yard, sad as it may seem. Let the insurance folks deal with it and find another project or boat. Good post-
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I would think the hull is going to have more value as scrap than as a hull. The problem is getting it in pieces and to the scrap yard.
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I would think the hull is going to have more value as scrap than as a hull. The problem is getting it in pieces and to the scrap yard.
Metal is bringing good money today. That close to Mexico, that carcass would already be gone today if not for fences and security. Never under estimate the power of the willing with a pickup truck and torches! Lol.
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If they are going to scrap the hull, I'd imagine some enterprising yard might buy it at scrap price and refit her as a fishing boat or some other commercial use. It seems like a waste to cut up such a large steel hull.
She's not too ugly to drag a net.
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