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Old 02-27-2012, 02:11 PM   #41
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There is a difference between burgees and flags. Flags are flown from the transom or the flag halyards on the spreaders, or from the top of the gaff, if fitted. Burgees are flown from the masthead, if fitted, or the bow staff.
The reason most power boats fly their YC burgee from the bow staff is they don't have a mast. To follow proper protocol, you should get a mast fitted, if you belong to a YC, just so you can fly the burgee in the proper place. That leaves the bow staff for any other burgee you might carry.
Many boats fly a manufacturers club ie GB, burgee at the bow, and their YC at the masthead. My boat flies the YC burgee at the masthead, and my CCGA burgee at the bow. I don't have another burgee spot, so I hope KJ will consider making a flag of his TF burgee, so I can fly it from the Port spreader. Starboard, is reserved for my courtesy flags, US, should I go to th eSan Juans, and French, should my son-law come along.
*Keith, check this site for flag etiquette as well as use of the terms "flag," "ensign",*"burgee," "pennant," etcetera.

http://www.usps.org/f_stuff/etiquett.html#y-c-burgee
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Old 02-27-2012, 02:20 PM   #42
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KJ, how about we change out the ships wheel for an oil derrick. *After all, that is the industry we support.
*I'll have to pass on that. I'm ok with the way it is. Perhaps someone else can take a shot a doing it.** KJ

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KJ, I absolutely love the Burgee and I'd fly it proudly. *For those of us with additional frustrations to express, there's always the infamous Trawler Coat of Arms.



*OK, KJ and Healhustler, I love'm both, and will fly them both at various times. *I think the only time it will be correct to fly them both at one time is when we pull into the harbor near Healhustlers home on Key Biscayne.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:42 PM   #43
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RE: Burgee

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KJ, how about we change out the ships wheel for an oil derrick. *After all, that is the industry we support.
*I'll have to pass on that. I'm ok with the way it is. Perhaps someone else can take a shot a doing it.** KJ

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KJ, I absolutely love the Burgee and I'd fly it proudly. *For those of us with additional frustrations to express, there's always the infamous Trawler Coat of Arms.



Love it. Except one needs something stronger than a mug of brew (perhaps JD?) after paying out all the boat dollars. But then again, a mug of brew may be all that one can then afford.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:45 PM   #44
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*Well, ever since I "stumbled" onto this forum I have been continuously impressed by the knowledge base of*it's Members. I have had a virtual plethora of questions about everything pertaining to boating, particularly about the "trawler" design. For a lot of folks making the "jump" to a trawler can be an overwhelming prospect. If not for an increase in*size, just the overall*leap in responsibility. It's like real serious boating.* Fortunately the good folks here are more than willing to "share" what they know. With the info*I got here on the forum, and my own homework, I felt confident enough to finally buy my own boat this year.

I just thought it would be nice to give something back in gratitude to*the*generous folks here.* Also, I thought it would be fun to see*what other designs folks could come up with and*post. Besides, it's fun making your own (try it).

And regardless of how some others may feel, I wouldn't mind sitting down*for a brewski*with most of*the folks here.

*KJ
Hi Ken

Took your advise and tried one, using yours as a starting point. Taking into account of visability at a distance as others pointed out.*


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Old 02-27-2012, 05:11 PM   #45
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Very nice. I like it.********* KJ
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:52 PM   #46
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Is the word - burgee pronounced with a hard or soft "G"?
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:03 PM   #47
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Is the word - burgee pronounced with a hard or soft "G"?
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:18 PM   #48
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Took your advise and tried one, using yours as a starting point. Taking into account of visability at a distance as others pointed out.*
*Thats more on the style of a yacht club pennant or burgee. Here is a photo of our YC pennant.

By the way, that is anchored in Quarter Cove, Wye River East off the Chesapeake. *One of our favorite spots.'


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Old 02-27-2012, 07:12 PM   #49
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Wouldn't it be best if the flag looked the same in mirror image so both sides appear the same?* (An "F" on one side wouldn't look like one*on the other.)
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:15 PM   #50
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Wouldn't it be best if the flag looked the same in mirror image so both sides appear the same?* (An "F" on one side wouldn't look like one*on the other.)
*That can be true for any printing or script. *It can be taken care of by doubling the fabric.

Tom was trying to get a new logo design. *If that had worked out, it probably would have made it simpler.*


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Old 02-27-2012, 08:21 PM   #51
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A couple of very creative people with some wonderful designs. I would proudly fly either one. As far as flag, burgee, or pennant... I'll let those of you far more knowledgeable than I to figure out.

When this gets finalized put me down for 2.
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Old 02-27-2012, 08:24 PM   #52
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RE: Burgee

According to the Five Year Book of the New York Yacht Club (1962), Yacht Routine of the NYYC, Sec. 2:

"The burgee is displayed whenever the ensign is hoisted, but may also be displayed separately, between morning and evening colors, at anchor or under-way by:
(a) Mastless yachts or single-masted yachts with bow staff, at the bow staff.
(b) Single-masted yachts without bow staff, at the truck.
(c) Yachts with two or more masts, at the foremost truck.

That should clear it up!

Happy flapping to all burgees,

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Old 03-20-2012, 05:18 PM   #53
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Found this site on how to design a flag.

http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Design/GF..._Final_Web.pdf
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #54
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>>ship's wheel thing is WAY overused by everybody<<

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What if the Ship's wheel was replaced with a 4 bladed propellor? *Also,I like the cleaner lines without the wording. It could just have the TF/ & Prop

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Somebody will want two props BB
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>>Somebody will want two props*BB<<

For those who want 2 props there will be one on each side!!

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I do like the prop idea instead of the ships wheel,the colors are great, I agree with the no .com thing.* Maybe a turtle should be involved, we are kinda slow. BB Maybe a turtle with a beer on his back?


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I like Rochepoint/Ken's burgee design/colors, but would prefer just the "T" without the "F",*with a larger*"T", and making the three thin stripes one*wide one (making the stripe more prominent, and*perhaps moving the stripe a bit further away from the hoist to give room for a prominent "T".

It would be simpler, be symmetrical front and back, be recognizable from a longer distance, and avoid hackneyed symbols.
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I like Rochepoint/Ken's burgee design/colors, but would prefer just the "T" without the "F",*with a larger*"T", and making the three thin stripes one*wide one (making the stripe more prominent, and*perhaps moving the stripe a bit further away from the hoist to give room for a prominent "T".

It would be simpler, be symmetrical front and back, be recognizable from a longer distance, and avoid hackneyed symbols.
Just for you Mark.*


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Ken, the third from the top is right on target.
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