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Old 11-07-2017, 06:47 AM   #1
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Does anyone have a source for the plastic instrument panel covers? I am coming up empty on all my searches. I cant even read the small gauges anymore. the cracking is internal and cant be buffed out.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:10 AM   #2
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Looks like it might be an engine mfr's product, rather than some boat mfr's custom product.

What holds the failed plastic in place? Do I see a white plastic surround and is that surround removable, like is looks? Is the white surround the same sort of plastic, thus likely to be sun-damaged too?

Presuming you cannot source a replacement, and the surround is OK, you could remove the failed lens. Depending upon how it meets the surround, cut it out, rout it out, grind it out. Prepare the remaining surface to accept glue or adhesive sealant. Glue/seal a new piece of sun-resistant plastic in.

Presuming I did not interpret the picture correctly and the clear lens turns down around the edges, then it's much tougher to make a new one. Not impossible to make a new perimeter frame out of: fiberglass, purchased fiberglass sheet/bar (McMaster-Carr) neatly shaped and painted, adhere a new lens.
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A local plastic fabricator can duplicate it.
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How good are your wood working skills?

I'd fabricate a trim ring/surround to replace the vertical elements using teak, then mount a flat piece of clear plexi in it.
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Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. Send them the old one and they will send you a new one
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The problem is probably caused from UV light. Depending on how thick the cover is, you might buff out the crazing. You can buy a clear UV blocking film that goes on like window tinting. Also there are liquid products that fill the scratches and make it much clearer. Like auto paint restorer.
There is a plexiglass product called Acrylite that has a UV blocker included. Used in museum displays, etc. Works good on flying bridge instruments that can be covered by a flat sheet.
I cover my topside gauges and compass when not in use. Flying bridge compass on my current boat was crazed like your gauge cover when I bought the boat. I buffed it out to perfectly clear.
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Looks like it might be an engine mfr's product, rather than some boat mfr's custom product.

What holds the failed plastic in place? Do I see a white plastic surround and is that surround removable, like is looks? Is the white surround the same sort of plastic, thus likely to be sun-damaged too?

Presuming you cannot source a replacement, and the surround is OK, you could remove the failed lens. Depending upon how it meets the surround, cut it out, rout it out, grind it out. Prepare the remaining surface to accept glue or adhesive sealant. Glue/seal a new piece of sun-resistant plastic in.

Presuming I did not interpret the picture correctly and the clear lens turns down around the edges, then it's much tougher to make a new one. Not impossible to make a new perimeter frame out of: fiberglass, purchased fiberglass sheet/bar (McMaster-Carr) neatly shaped and painted, adhere a new lens.
Good ideas, maybe if a fabricator isn't available.
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How good are your wood working skills?

I'd fabricate a trim ring/surround to replace the vertical elements using teak, then mount a flat piece of clear plexi in it.
I could do that,, thanks.
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Norva plastics in Norfolk Virginia. Send them the old one and they will send you a new one
Wow Gordon, have you looked at their website? Everything is suicide preventable products. They must have a niche.
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The problem is probably caused from UV light. Depending on how thick the cover is, you might buff out the crazing. You can buy a clear UV blocking film that goes on like window tinting. Also there are liquid products that fill the scratches and make it much clearer. Like auto paint restorer.
There is a plexiglass product called Acrylite that has a UV blocker included. Used in museum displays, etc. Works good on flying bridge instruments that can be covered by a flat sheet.
I cover my topside gauges and compass when not in use. Flying bridge compass on my current boat was crazed like your gauge cover when I bought the boat. I buffed it out to perfectly clear.
The flaws are not in the surface. They are deeper in the Plexiglas.
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We have a similar setup on Monk 36s a couple of the owners have made wood frames as mentioned by Shrew in post #4. Mine suffers from it too but I'm living with it for now. The individual gauge plastic covers are burned a bit too, they are by VDO I imagine when they get too bad replacements are available otherwise the whole gauge if need be.
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We have a similar setup on Monk 36s a couple of the owners have made wood frames as mentioned by Shrew in post #4. Mine suffers from it too but I'm living with it for now. The individual gauge plastic covers are burned a bit too, they are by VDO I imagine when they get too bad replacements are available otherwise the whole gauge if need be.
The wood frame sounds good. Fortunately the PO made a cloth cover that is always over the gauges when not in use. The gauges are all in excellent condition.
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The wood frame sounds good. Fortunately the PO made a cloth cover that is always over the gauges when not in use. The gauges are all in excellent condition.
Ok, I am excited about the chance to build something. May be it will be mahogany instead of teak. $$$ is better
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The problem is probably caused from UV light. Depending on how thick the cover is, you might buff out the crazing. You can buy a clear UV blocking film that goes on like window tinting. Also there are liquid products that fill the scratches and make it much clearer. Like auto paint restorer.
There is a plexiglass product called Acrylite that has a UV blocker included. Used in museum displays, etc. Works good on flying bridge instruments that can be covered by a flat sheet.
I cover my topside gauges and compass when not in use. Flying bridge compass on my current boat was crazed like your gauge cover when I bought the boat. I buffed it out to perfectly clear.


Iíd second this advice...

Then if it didnít work, build a new one out of plexiglas
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Found info on web about sanding the plexiglass down. Spent 4 hrs sanding and 2 hrs buffing. Used a half sheet sander and dry sander 80, 120, 180, 220. I could have started with 40 grit. Wet sanded 400, 600, 1500, 2000, 2500. Orbital buffer Presta gelcoat compound, the Presta Chroma polish. It still has alot of deep grazing but the clarity is much better.Click image for larger version

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Clean the surface with alcohol.

Get a clear varnish with UV protectant and either foam brush or rattle can spray it with a couple of coats.

5at will clear it up a lot!
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If you want it even clearer, use rubbing compound on it before painting.
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If you want it even clearer, use rubbing compound on it before painting.
I spent 2 hours buffing it with a very light compound and the a Presta Chroma polish.
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