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Old 06-28-2017, 10:15 AM   #1
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Bottom Cleaner Killed in Palm Beach

Scuba diver dies in accident at Old Port Cove Marina | The Triton

This is really bad.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:25 AM   #2
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Yes, that's bad. Diving on boats has it's risks. I came back from a cruise last year and backed into my slip as usual. I got off my boat and there was a diver on the other side of the dock. Apparently, he had been cleaning the boat next to mine when I backed in.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:33 AM   #3
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Wow, can't image this happening, thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the diver.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:41 AM   #4
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Very sad. We were in this marina 6 weeks ago and saw the boat.

I have forwarded the link to my diver.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:47 AM   #5
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Too horrible for words. My heart goes out to all who love and know him.

I often wonder why it is not mandatory for a diver down flag to not be put on a bouy whenever a diver is anywhere in the area.

So sad.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:53 AM   #6
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Ouch! LOCK-OUT/TAG-OUT. Same goes for main engines, and high power (military) sonar arrays.
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:05 AM   #7
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This is truly sad and my heart goes out to the Divers family. It's a damn shame!


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Ouch! LOCK-OUT/TAG-OUT. Same goes for main engines, and high power (military) sonar arrays.
I have always lock-out and tag-out my vessel when a driver is in the water cleaning the bottom. It's safe for them and me.

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Old 06-28-2017, 11:13 AM   #8
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Awful and sad. This could "almost" be considered a freak accident, but the truth is that diving around propellers and other boats in a crowded marina is more dangerous than it seems. Certainly the divers and marinas should create a list of safety practices...locking out the boat's starting procedure, place warnings or caution tape or diver down signs posted around the work area, maybe even someone up top, watching. On a yacht like that Westport I'd assume a paid captain or crew member could be available.

After this tragedy I'd avoid working around the props if I wasn't sure it was completely safe.
In my marina we have divers regularly. They're pretty quiet and not real easy to see and often go unnoticed.
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:22 AM   #9
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My diver comes without me being there so it's not possible to install any sort of lockout device. That would be the same for most of us. Having someone watching would double the cost of service.


A sign on the boat might help but in a case like I mentioned above, there's not much that can be done except for the diver to pay attention and get to a safe place when he hears propellers nearby.


In the case mentioned above, I suspect it all happened too quickly for the diver to take action.
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Old 06-28-2017, 11:31 AM   #10
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Diving on small boats is one thing...obviously the size of eqipment and types of operations require a different level of vigilance.

I will wait if ever all the true facts come out.
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No matter what, I am always nervous when ever I am near the stern while swimming, even though the boat is shut down. Sad thing to happen.
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I guess I was thinking more about the mega yachts in Palm Beach, etc. where various people might be aboard, as was the case here. In that situation a warning sign at all the helm stations might have helped.
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"There are divers over the side, do not rotate screws, cycle rudders, operate sonar, take suction from or discharge to the sea, blow flood or vent any tanks, or operate any underwater equipment without first contacting the Chief Engineer and the diving supervisor." over the 1MC every 15 minutes. Thats after lockout/tagout of these systems. Navy stuff.

From the looks of that boat (complete with helo), there's a professional crew aboard. I would think similar procedures are used in the big-boy yacht world for liability concerns, if nothing else.

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That's pretty horrible.

I'm a little surprised that boats with thrusters big enough, and powerful enough, to suck people into them, that obviously may be operated where people might be in the water, don't have some kind of grates or guards on them.
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That's pretty horrible.

I'm a little surprised that boats with thrusters big enough, and powerful enough, to suck people into them, that obviously may be operated where people might be in the water, don't have some kind of grates or guards on them.
That would seem to make sense although the danger from the actual propulsion props would be much worse.

There are hundreds of ways to lose your life and this is probably a pretty rare one. Every now and then, some government agency tries to legislate guards for boat props in general but it seems they interfere with the boat performance too much.
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That's pretty horrible.

I'm a little surprised that boats with thrusters big enough, and powerful enough, to suck people into them, that obviously may be operated where people might be in the water, don't have some kind of grates or guards on them.
This thruster was likely on the order of 75 HP and 18" prop diameter. He was likely in there to remove barnacles from the blades. Unfortunately, these things have no warm up time or warning. RIP.
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an unthinkable horror for those involved. Prayers for healing. Hard to get over something like that.
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Horrible accident for sure. I wonder if there is any "accrediting" body of any sort that might suggest the lock out/tag out recommended to be the divers regular protocol
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In 2004 Osha introduced rules/standards for commercial diving operations. I haven't read them. My only commercial dive was in Lucaya, where I earned $20 for retrieving a dropped gas cap.
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Someone energized the thruster so someone was onboard. At my old place of work, just having a diver in the water in the slip without the thruster and main engines locked out would have the responsible supervisor AND the divers fired.
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