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Old 09-30-2017, 09:25 PM   #21
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I got to fly an empty Airbus A321 from Charlotte to Pittsburg today and dropped it off at the hanger for heavy maintenance. Max take off weight for this plane is 205,000 lbs. With no passengers, cargo and just enough fuel for a 50 minute flight, we weighed just 122,000 lbs. Acceleration at take off was impressive. The rate of climb was about 5,000 ft per minute at an angle of about 20 degrees until we pulled the power from take off to climb power. Then it settled to between 4-4500 ft per minute at 250 kts. I started my timer at brake release. We were passing 10,000 feet after 3 minutes and 8 minutes to 20,000 ft. That includes slowing the climb to accelerate to 330 kts indicated which at 20k feet was 450 kts true.

I don't get to fly empty airplanes often, and it's a blast when do. As mentioned, these planes are designed to take off at max weight, blow an engine, and still be able to continue the take off and climb out on one engine. It's really pretty amazing.
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Old 10-01-2017, 02:43 AM   #22
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My last 4 flights were on Vietnam Airlines new 787s. Great planes,great comfort and accommodation. I`m definitely a fan.
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I love these types of threads, where folks in the aviation industry share their experiences. This includes mechanics that fixes these types of birds when incidents takes place. I remember when Eastern Airlines flew the state of the art Whisperliner. Dang the first class service was second to none before Delta got their L-1011.When that plane took off you felt like you were floating in air in a split second. Now that was going first class as it relates to domestic flights.
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I got to fly an empty Airbus A321 from Charlotte to Pittsburg today and dropped it off at the hanger for heavy maintenance. Max take off weight for this plane is 205,000 lbs. With no passengers, cargo and just enough fuel for a 50 minute flight, we weighed just 122,000 lbs. Acceleration at take off was impressive. The rate of climb was about 5,000 ft per minute at an angle of about 20 degrees until we pulled the power from take off to climb power. Then it settled to between 4-4500 ft per minute at 250 kts. I started my timer at brake release. We were passing 10,000 feet after 3 minutes and 8 minutes to 20,000 ft. That includes slowing the climb to accelerate to 330 kts indicated which at 20k feet was 450 kts true.

I don't get to fly empty airplanes often, and it's a blast when do. As mentioned, these planes are designed to take off at max weight, blow an engine, and still be able to continue the take off and climb out on one engine. It's really pretty amazing.
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Sounds cool, but even better in a Boeing... <g>

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Occasionally we get a light weight MD-11 for a short leg. In the past if the runway was wet we did a Max Power T/O. Hold onto your jock strap! You can't the see the the brown on the PFD due to the nose high attitude at V2+10.... If you can hold V2+10. Rocket ships they are and fun too!
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.... I remember when Eastern Airlines flew the state of the art Whisperliner. Dang the first class service was second to none before Delta got their L-1011.When that plane took off you felt like you were floating in air in a split second. Now that was going first class as it relates to domestic flights.
I have to admit we were up the front on VN`s new 787s. 1-2-1 seat configuration, very comfy, with service to match.
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<<<Originally Posted by Scratchnsaw View Post
.... I remember when Eastern Airlines flew the state of the art Whisperliner. Dang the first class service was second to none before Delta got their L-1011.When that plane took off you felt like you were floating in air in a split second. Now that was going first class as it relates to domestic flights.>>>

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I have to admit we were up the front on VN`s new 787s. 1-2-1 seat configuration, very comfy, with service to match.
The good old days with real silverware lobster and filets.... service was fantastic.... a thing of the past, unless you're doing international stuff.
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Interesting but Marin (remember him?) probably was involved in that film.

I did some test flying for Bombardier and we flew green Challengers with curtains behind us and no interiors (or insulation or heat ducts) back and forth to Witchita. They used to haul ahse as well but if you went back to pee the cabin was about -50 so you had to be quick. I didn't miss any of that at all but this movie did give me a twitch, though.
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