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Old 01-12-2014, 05:34 PM   #21
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Agreed, but by the same token, how difficult could it have been for the authorities to confirm that the vessels they were "raiding", "boarding" or "seizing", were not in compliance BEFORE seizing the boats and creating such a P.R. nightmare?

It's like a drug raid on the wrong house. Very bad mojo...
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:43 PM   #22
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Although we can see Mexico from our slip we will never go there again. Some 38 years ago, while in Mexico. we got a taste of "La Mordita," the little death. That is what they call bribery there, bribery that is carried out by policemen, the military, and government officials. It looks like nothing has changed.
La or una Mordida means a bite, in other words a policeman etc. is "putting the bite on you".
There are many Spanish slang words for a bribe the proper one is soborno.
My favorite was a cop in the Dominican Republic who flagged us down on the road for an imaginary infraction, after warning he asked for a contribution for "El Presidente". Presidente is the name of the popular, and very good, beer there.
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Agreed, but by the same token, how difficult could it have been for the authorities to confirm that the vessels they were "raiding", "boarding" or "seizing", were not in compliance BEFORE seizing the boats and creating such a P.R. nightmare?
To be fair here I have not read any of the sensationalized media reports. My only information was from a couple of folks in one of the marinas. They said nothing about "raiding" or "boarding". Seizures where procedural due to no TIP on file with the Port Captain or prominently displayed aboard the vessel as prescribed on the TIP.

One couple was asleep aboard their rather small sailboat and awoke to find the seizure notice on their boat a few hours later. That's some real stealthy raiding and boarding tactics where people can sleep through it.

Perhaps Larry can confirm that as he has been there on his current boat recently and seems to have a TIP in his possession.
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This was just forwarded to me.

Opequimar Shipyard, Puerto Vallarta which had 16 vessels on “Precautionary Embargo” have been removed, and released. Opequimar provided certified copies of all needed paperwork to SAT , AT NO TIME were the vessels at Opequimar , chained, seized or IMPOUNDED, Just Like marina Nuevo Vallarta under ” Precautionary Embargo” only. They handled the issue in a professional manner and dealt with the issue and all things considered rather quickly

As with any governmental agency, there is bureaucracy,and things take time, 2 of the 3 marinas affected this area have had their issues resolved


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I grew up in San Diego and have never understood how mad Americans get when they choose to go to a foreign country, Mexico, and choose to violate that countries laws and then get caught. They have rules, we have rules. When in Mexico you must follow their rules.
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I grew up in San Diego and have never understood how mad Americans get when they choose to go to a foreign country, Mexico, and choose to violate that countries laws and then get caught. They have rules, we have rules. When in Mexico you must follow their rules.
Ditto.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:25 PM   #27
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This was just forwarded to me.

Opequimar Shipyard, Puerto Vallarta which had 16 vessels on “Precautionary Embargo” have been removed, and released. Opequimar provided certified copies of all needed paperwork to SAT , AT NO TIME were the vessels at Opequimar , chained, seized or IMPOUNDED, Just Like marina Nuevo Vallarta under ” Precautionary Embargo” only. They handled the issue in a professional manner and dealt with the issue and all things considered rather quickly

As with any governmental agency, there is bureaucracy,and things take time, 2 of the 3 marinas affected this area have had their issues resolved


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I grew up in San Diego and have never understood how mad Americans get when they choose to go to a foreign country, Mexico, and choose to violate that countries laws and then get caught. They have rules, we have rules. When in Mexico you must follow their rules.
Yep. Somebody else's sandbox, their rules.

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...One couple was asleep aboard their rather small sailboat and awoke to find the seizure notice on their boat a few hours later. That's some real stealthy raiding and boarding tactics where people can sleep through it...
Yepper, that would be some stealthy ops for sure
Like yourself, I don't have anymore than the left wing press to rely upon either. Just wondered how hard it would have been to have all your ducks in a row before you do anything?

Oh well, all's well that ends well
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