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04-20-2011, 04:48 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Ben,
I think propellers were screws before they were propellers and if you look in some history books the early props/screws you'll actually see how they looked like a wood screw. Did'nt have blades. Surely you've heard of "twin screws". Ever heard of a twin prop boat??
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04-20-2011, 05:29 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
nomadwilly wrote:
Ben,
I think propellers were screws before they were propellers and if you look in some history books the early props/screws you'll actually see how they looked like a wood screw. Did'nt have blades. Surely you've heard of "twin screws". Ever heard of a twin prop boat??
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*when I imported my trawler from Tiawan she was listed on her papers as the "Oil Screw China Doll".* Of course, China Doll being the name on her documentation.
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04-21-2011, 05:11 AM
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Guru
City: New Bern NC
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Bendit wrote:Kicking strap, aka boom vang*
Barber hauler, aka tweaker
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*Barber hauler from the dinky one design boats.* Replaced with adjustable sliding fair lead cars on the bigger boats.
Boomvangs have mostly gone solid now but still line on the smaller boats.
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04-21-2011, 06:37 AM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
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Boat terms just for the fun of it
The one I really like "moonraker".* Top most square sail on a fully rigged*sailing ship above the sky sail.
-- Edited by Moonstruck on Thursday 21st of April 2011 07:54:49 AM
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04-22-2011, 10:36 AM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Moonstruck wrote:
*Re ketch vs. yawl...* The easy way to recognize the difference:
Y'all will know if it's a yawl if the helm is ahead of the main mast...the catch if it's a ketch is that you have be able to see around the main mast.
-- Edited by HeadMistress on Wednesday 20th of April 2011 10:46:05 AM
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*Peggie, I always thought on a yawl that the mizzen mast is stepped at or behind the rudder post.* That would put the steering behind the main mast.* i think that a ketch has its steering near or behind the mizzen mast..* I will qualify this by saying that I have never been a sailor.* Just what I thought.
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*The difference between a yawl and a ketch is strictly dictated by the mizzen (after) mast relationship with the rudderpost. With the mizzen mast behind the rudder post, you have a yawl. With the mizzen mast forward of the rudder post, you have a ketch. Generally the rudder post is directly below the steering station, but with hydraulic (and some other types) steering the wheel (steering, not prop) can be located anywhere on the boat.
Don't get me started on schooners.*
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04-22-2011, 10:37 AM
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
And "topsides" refers to what on a boat?
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04-22-2011, 10:55 AM
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Moonstruck wrote:
The one I really like "moonraker".* Top most square sail on a fully rigged*sailing ship above the sky sail.
-- Edited by Moonstruck on Thursday 21st of April 2011 07:54:49 AM
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*Mr. Moon.**Methinks you are just enamored with anything that has your name in it.
SD
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04-22-2011, 12:05 PM
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
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Old Stone wrote:skipperdude wrote:
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Moonstruck wrote:
The one I really like "moonraker".* Top most square sail on a fully rigged*sailing ship above the sky sail.
-- Edited by Moonstruck on Thursday 21st of April 2011 07:54:49 AM
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*Mr. Moon.**Methinks you are just enamored with anything that has your name in it.
SD
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Wow, I don't recall that many things having the name Don in them!
-- Edited by Old Stone on Friday 22nd of April 2011 12:43:36 PM
*Carl, remember, you made me do this.
People
<ul>[*] Don (given name), a short form of the masculine given name Donald in English, also a masculine given name in Irish[*] Don (honorific), a Spanish, Portuguese and Italian title, given as a mark of respect[*]Don, a crime boss[*] University don, in British universities, traditionally, a head, fellow or tutor of a college[*]A resident assistant at universities in Canada and the USA[/list]And*of course there is always "The Donald".*
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04-22-2011, 02:00 PM
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#29
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
To funny.
SD
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04-22-2011, 02:45 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Skipperdude, you seem to have the same habit as I of changing avatars frequently.* I think it is refreshing.
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04-22-2011, 04:20 PM
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Conrad wrote:
And "topsides" refers to what on a boat?
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*The hull above the waterline.
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04-22-2011, 08:00 PM
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Guru
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Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Old Stone wrote:
Ah - I see, and now we must bow to the Don. Yes, I made you do it! I will never learn. The devil made ME do it! Slow day for some of us, for sure! Only satisfaction I get right now is that I am quite sure the one, the only, the Don, is not in his beach throne, but humbly, we must still bow. Ever notice that a deep bow MAY cause a slight bit of wind now and then? Must depend on who you are bowing to!
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*Gordon Bennett, Carl!* Because of the need to limit green house gases, I had the practice of the deep bow stopped a couple of years ago---the ozone hole and all, you know.* A simple bowing of the head will suffice.* Thank you for*the thought though.
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-- Edited by Moonstruck on Friday 22nd of April 2011 09:01:57 PM
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04-23-2011, 08:36 AM
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Guru
City: Campbell River
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
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HeadMistress wrote:Conrad wrote:
And "topsides" refers to what on a boat?
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*The hull above the waterline.
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*Thank you Peggie! Most folks use the term to refer to everything above the hull.
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04-23-2011, 11:41 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Conrad wrote:HeadMistress wrote:Conrad wrote:
And "topsides" refers to what on a boat?
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*The hull above the waterline.
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*Thank you Peggie! Most folks use the term to refer to everything above the hull.
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*Most folks around here agree with Peggy. Topsides=the hull above the waterline and beneath the toe rail.
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04-23-2011, 11:47 AM
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Master and Commander
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
dwhatty wrote:
*Most folks around here agree with Peggy. Topsides=the hull above the waterline and beneath the toe rail.
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*Chapman defines "topsides" as both (1) the sides of a vessel above the waterline and (2) on deck as opposed to below deck.
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04-23-2011, 12:07 PM
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
markpierce wrote:dwhatty wrote:
*Most folks around here agree with Peggy. Topsides=the hull above the waterline and beneath the toe rail.
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*Chapman defines "topsides" as both (1) the sides of a vessel above the waterline and (2) on deck as opposed to below deck.
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*Don't have my Chapman's nearby, but any references I've seen agree with Peggie's definition, with the only variation sometimes being that it is the part of the hull between the waterline and the deck/toerail/caprail/gunwale.
I'm wondering if Chapman's uses the term "topside", which would make sense in context of going above deck.
And dwhatty, I should have clarified - other folks not members of this forum use the term incorrectly! Especially nautical magazine writers it seems.
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04-23-2011, 03:26 PM
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#37
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
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dwhatty wrote:Most folks around here agree with Peggy. Topsides=the hull above the waterline and beneath the toe rail.
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* * * ** I disagree!* Folks in my neck of the woods refer to "top-sides' being any structure above the hull. Blue hull with white top-sides when hailing the USCG.
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04-23-2011, 04:05 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
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Boat terms just for the fun of it
Walt: Exact opposite here. You'd be blue topsides, white wheelhouse/cabin sides/superstructure.
-- Edited by dwhatty on Saturday 23rd of April 2011 05:06:27 PM
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04-23-2011, 05:28 PM
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#39
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Guru
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
Conrad wrote:HeadMistress wrote:Conrad wrote:
And "topsides" refers to what on a boat?
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*The hull above the waterline.
*Thank you Peggie! Most folks use the term to refer to everything above the hull.
Completely oblivious to the reason the word is topSIDES.
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Ok...why is a vessel's command center called a bridge?
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04-23-2011, 05:37 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
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RE: Boat terms just for the fun of it
Quote:
HeadMistress wrote:
Ok...why is a vessel's command center called a bridge?
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The first powered oceancraft had side-wheel paddles.* The command center for the*boat was on a*literal open*bridge*spanning the distance between*the paddle wheels.*
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