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04-10-2018, 04:59 PM
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Member
City: Dallas
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 11
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Boat searching online
We have been looking online for a cruising/live aboard powerboat for at least 6 months. Requirements are: Ideal for 2 people (do not need multiple berths), diesel, under 60', propane galley, minimum brightwork (no teak decks), dingy/davit system, under $450K, hull speed Hp is all that is needed (no need for 900 Hp), easily handled by 2 (we are 68 and 70 fit and healthy, past boat owners/experienced). Pluses are : bow thruster, washer/dryer, solar.
We recently did a 4200 mi road trip to Florida looking for such a vessel. Very disappointing to say the least - but what we realized was we did not want to do this in Florida - even though I was raised in Florida. We are looking to do this adventure in the PNW, where I have also lived and cruised (Seattle/UW Graduate).
Looking on Yachtworld, Boat Trader, even Craigslist daily for months. Any thoughts on other searching possibilities ?
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04-10-2018, 05:09 PM
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Senior Member
City: Lutz
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 473
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wine47
We have been looking online for a cruising/live aboard powerboat for at least 6 months. Requirements are: Ideal for 2 people (do not need multiple berths), diesel, under 60', propane galley, minimum brightwork (no teak decks), dingy/davit system, under $450K, hull speed Hp is all that is needed (no need for 900 Hp), easily handled by 2 (we are 68 and 70 fit and healthy, past boat owners/experienced). Pluses are : bow thruster, washer/dryer, solar.
We recently did a 4200 mi road trip to Florida looking for such a vessel. Very disappointing to say the least - but what we realized was we did not want to do this in Florida - even though I was raised in Florida. We are looking to do this adventure in the PNW, where I have also lived and cruised (Seattle/UW Graduate).
Looking on Yachtworld, Boat Trader, even Craigslist daily for months. Any thoughts on other searching possibilities ?
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I too was searching in Florida for couple months for 11 weeks- traveling all over --seeing poorly maintained and overpriced junk everywhere. Just as I was about to give up I found my boat and bought it! So yours is out there too----and probably in Florida,so don't give up.
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04-10-2018, 05:35 PM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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It seems to me there are a huge number of boats available in that price range. Maybe you can be more specific about what it is you are, and aren't looking for?
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04-10-2018, 05:54 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,964
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To me, what you listed puts you in the low to mid 40 ft range. You won't find many sub 40 ft boats with a washer dryer set.
Yachtworld Advanced Search
Power
Trawler
Price 40000 to 450000
Material All
38 to 50 feet
Fuel Diesel
# of engines All
Then limit your search to the West and PNW Coast
My search turned up 139 hits.
Plus you can save the search and email you new vessel listing that match your criteria.
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Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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04-10-2018, 06:12 PM
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Scot Free
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 53' Efficient
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 754
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With that budget, you should have been able to see at least some decent boats. I wonder why you have only been shown junk? Given you said powerboat not trawler, you have lots of options:
I have friends who have everything you are looking for in a 2002, 57’ Carver. Under $500k. Not the boat of choice for the majority of this forum but a truly liveaboard coastal cruiser. Until we know more about your preferences we could suggest probably 40 brands.
I’m on a 1988, 53’ Cheoy Lee, solo. Also has everything you are looking for, including price point. Except I have electric galley. Induction cooktop has rapid response and in my opinion, equivalent to gas. I keep the gas outside the boat on a grill on the boat deck.
A Bayliner 4788 might work for you. There is a nice blog of a couple who has one purchased for under $200k on the inter web. (Technomadia)
Or a Kady Krogan if you can find one at your price point.
So why don’t you tell us what you have looked at and we can garner an idea about your tastes in boats?
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04-10-2018, 06:15 PM
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Scot Free
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 53' Efficient
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 754
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I see you are in Dallas. I bought my boat in Houston. Some nice choices in that area.
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04-10-2018, 06:56 PM
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Guru
City: Satsuma FL
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 2,300
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I have seen a lot of complaints about boats in Florida being misrepresented and being junk. Haven't seen the same negative comments about PNW boats or even Great Lakes boats. Why not start out by going to the west coast Trawlerfest?
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04-10-2018, 07:35 PM
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Member
City: Dallas
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 11
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Online search
My question is what other forums/websites am I missing in our search. Yes we live in Dallas but that has not hindered our search. Yes, I have gone with Advanced search mode, price, diesel, location with Yachtworld, Boat Trader, Craigslist.
From research, we do not want a Carver, Bayliner (no Hinos), Kady Krogan does not work for us. Not looking for a "cookie cutter" boat. A Nordland 65 enticed us in Seattle, but it is a "project boat" - not what we are looking for. What has interested us is a Grand Banks Alaskan w/o teak decks - one was recently available in Washington, but sold. Wooden hull "might" work for us if done/maintained right, we have owned wooden boats in the past. Tollycraft is high on what we like. 6-71N DD diesel's would be desirable along with Cummins 5.9 non turbo. We think it will need to be 50 - 60'.
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04-10-2018, 11:07 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,185
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The newer Bayliner motoryachts have Cummins engines not Hinos.
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04-11-2018, 12:12 AM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,329
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Hino is a Toyota subsidiary. Neighbors with a Bayliner 4588 don`t seem unhappy with their Hinos. I think one of our Mods has Hinos in a 4788, not heard him complain about them. The 4588/4788 get a good rap on TF, though if only they used lighter color trim in the PH cave.....
Does your price range take you into Selene and Nordhaven territory?
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BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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04-11-2018, 12:30 AM
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Guru
City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
Vessel Name: Steppin Stone IV
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Kelly Trawler 46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,815
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Several FB pages with some good listings and trawlers for sale I actually bought mine on craigslists 6 years ago but knowing what I know now I think I would find a broker I trusted and let him do the work for me
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Skype roatan63
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04-11-2018, 06:54 AM
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Guru
City: Great Lakes
Vessel Model: OA 440
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 904
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Seattle probably has the largest concentration of Ocean Alexanders in the country. If you like the larger Tolleycraft, you will probably like the OA offerings. Most are semi-planning hulls with appropriately sized diesels. There are also a number of OAs on the Great Lakes as there was a dealer in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin for many years. Given that Great Lakes boats are in the water about one third of the year, they are often in remarkably nice condition and worth a premium. Same for NW boats as they suffer less from the ravages of exposure to the hot sun and warm water.
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04-11-2018, 07:10 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Baton Rouge
Vessel Name: Someday's Here
Vessel Model: 1987 Jefferson 42
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 96
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You may want to try Boats.com
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Darrell & Kim
YouTube/ Someday's Here
Stop The Madness Start The Adventure
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04-11-2018, 07:44 AM
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Guru
City: Cary, NC
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,841
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Here's the thing... All boats are compromises. There is no perfect boat... (Well, except Eric and Mark. They seem to have boats with perfect EVERYTHING) ;-) If you have searched that extensively and came up empty, you are going to have to let go of some of your criteria. Just sayin'... Good luck with your search.
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2000 Navigator 4200 Classic
(NOT a trawler)
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04-11-2018, 08:46 AM
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Senior Member
City: Essex, Ct.
Vessel Name: Harmony
Vessel Model: 1982 41' President
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 442
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I think you have covered the best search engines. I would try reducing your search criteria. Remove the Trawler category. There are a lot of Raised Pilothouses that meet your criteria. You might be surprised at how people categorize their own boats.
It is all a matter of time and patience. I have been looking to go up to a 50' boat for over a year and just have not made the right connections.
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Tom
"Harmony"
1982 41' President
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04-11-2018, 11:19 AM
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Member
City: Dallas
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 11
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By FB, do you mean Facebook ? Not on that. I have been searching for "powerboat", not a specific powerboat. Some engines we will not have, Cat's over 375Hp, 8.2 4 stroke diesel (can't get parts), Hino's - same issue. We know it is a compromise, teak decks NO. Had a wooden sailboat in Sausalito with teak decks I reefed and caulked myself. The issue is not the teak, it is what is under it. Have not seen an Ocean Alexander w/o teak decks. I know elec to propane is doable ~ $5K. Care and condition of boat including engine room is critical for us. Thanks for the responses.
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04-11-2018, 01:16 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
Vessel Name: Steppin Stone IV
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Kelly Trawler 46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wine47
By FB, do you mean Facebook ? Not on that. I have been searching for "powerboat", not a specific powerboat. Some engines we will not have, Cat's over 375Hp, 8.2 4 stroke diesel (can't get parts), Hino's - same issue. We know it is a compromise, teak decks NO. Had a wooden sailboat in Sausalito with teak decks I reefed and caulked myself. The issue is not the teak, it is what is under it. Have not seen an Ocean Alexander w/o teak decks. I know elec to propane is doable ~ $5K. Care and condition of boat including engine room is critical for us. Thanks for the responses.
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Yes On the FB= Facebook so many listed
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Skype roatan63
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04-11-2018, 01:42 PM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 628
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What about a Nordic 42 or American Tug 41? My NT 42 came back to SW Florida from California. The ones without a bridge are easy to truck.
Mine is a 2006 and similar ones are in your stated price range.
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04-11-2018, 04:23 PM
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Guru
City: Great Lakes
Vessel Model: OA 440
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 904
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wine47
.. Have not seen an Ocean Alexander w/o teak decks. Care and condition of boat including engine room is critical for us. Thanks for the responses.
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There are lots of newer OAs without teak decks. ,Our boat has a small patch of teak in the cockpit only. Sundeck, side walkways, and bow are all fiberglass. This Great Lakes boat ,which I have been aboard, also has the small patch on the cockpit...it's an OA thing. This is a very nice boat...great engines....maybe a little high on the asking price, but it's in super condition.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999...ource=enhanced listing#.Ws5eNuSG_4g
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04-11-2018, 04:47 PM
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Guru
Join Date: May 2010
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