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Old 01-25-2017, 08:16 AM   #1
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Boat docking,,,,

Been watching videos of boat docking. This captain appears comfortable with his method but what do you think?

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Interesting. All of the vessels are bow in - I suspect because they do not have a narrow fairway and can back out at their leisure.
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[QUOTE=NewbieFromNJ;517023]Been watching videos of boat docking. This captain appears comfortable with his method but what do you think?

forgive my views, but the guy would've advocated not to make this educational video, as he seems to practice only for yourself.

Practice makes perfect, but why all the need today to share on social network...
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Interesting. All of the vessels are bow in - I suspect because they do not have a narrow fairway and can back out at their leisure.
brings the pier model is really a risk to swiming platform, I think them he drives the bow first?
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When traveling with the current in that situation, your water speed has to be slower, for a safe ground speed, which produces the effect that you see. Going against the current allows a faster water speed with the same ground speed with less tidal current effect pushing the stern over. The more you practice, the better you get at it.

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Practice makes perfect, but why all the need today to share on social network...

At the end of his video he was essentially pleading ignorance and asking for any advice viewers may have.


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Interesting. All of the vessels are bow in - I suspect because they do not have a narrow fairway and can back out at their leisure.

That is certainly one possibility. It may also be that because the current and prevailing wind that bow-in is easier than stern-in. Also the front of the slips have a V in the slip. Stern-in would make the effective length of the slip shorter.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:09 AM   #7
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I love watching other people dock.
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He needs to learn to transition from forward momentum to sideways momentum as he parallel parks to bring the stern in.

If his bow in technique works for him fine. But I'd be more incline to come in against the tide and current using a fender or adding protection to the piling.

But he's going slow and using common sense which is great.
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I love watching other people dock.


I do as well. Whether they do it poorly or well, I always learn something.

This video did give me an idea. I want to get drone for video and photos (just have to convince my wife). I'd like to shoot a video of me arriving and leaving my slip for my own education and critique by the TF community. That perspective from above could be helpful.
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I do as well. Whether they do it poorly or well, I always learn something.

This video did give me an idea. I want to get drone for video and photos (just have to convince my wife). I'd like to shoot a video of me arriving and leaving my slip for my own education and critique by the TF community. That perspective from above could be helpful.
Just be aware that battery life on today's drones are very limited - the DJI Phantom batteries last around 17 minutes. So before that it auto returns to the starting point - not good over water. You would have to have someone on shore operate it for you.
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He needs to learn to transition from forward momentum to sideways momentum as he parallel parks to bring the stern in.

If his bow in technique works for him fine. But I'd be more incline to come in against the tide and current using a fender or adding protection to the piling.

But he's going slow and using common sense which is great.


Plus...a shallower angle with no wind or tide may help.

Into the slip....there's no way he can do that with more than about a half knot or more of current and definitely not any current with 15-20 knots of wind.

Half knot of current and 5 knots of wind with higher puff might be prefect for that boat as the current and wind may help turn it perpendicular, but as much as he described would be a disaster in my experience.


At least there are finger piers on both sides....
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I realize that a canoe is extremely small compared to a trawler. But I have a question?

Does the technique of a "ferry glide" work with a large boat?
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Wow....only time I have had to do something like that in a powerboat was towing a barge against tidal flow in the middle of a noreaster.
The throttle was on the pins and if I didn't find eddies and slower current from side to side...I was getting drug backwards out the inlet into the stormy sea....not an option so trying this and praying was the only things working.
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Just be aware that battery life on today's drones are very limited - the DJI Phantom batteries last around 17 minutes. So before that it auto returns to the starting point - not good over water. You would have to have someone on shore operate it for you.


Yup. I have the logistics figured out, I just have to convince my wife that a drone is not evil incarnate.

FWIW, my goal is a DJI Mavic Pro
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I call fake! That can't be a dock at the Jersey shore.

Where is the Ferris wheel? Roller Coaster? Tilt-a-Whirl? Snookie and 'the situation'?

Where can I get a sausage sandwich or a pizza? Or a drink!

Are those empty parking spaces in the back? Oh yeah, now I know it's fake.
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Pretty sure he's in SoCal.

Mentions Los Cerritos channel which is off Alamitos Bay near Long Beach.

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The OP is from Monroe TWP. NJ. He has a video made in Calf. from U-Tube. That is my take. That slip is designed for Bow entry.


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Interesting. All of the vessels are bow in - I suspect because they do not have a narrow fairway and can back out at their leisure.
To maybe help answer your question about bow in. Look at the shape of the slip, not a true rectangle the inner corners are angled off with extra dock area and backing in with a broad stern might make a 36 ft. dock closer to a 32 footer also more risk of dinging the stern. It might not matter with a narrow boat but that slip is not looking all that wide.
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Looks good to me..he got it into the slip twice and the boat doesn't seem to require any repairs.

Everyone will do it a little differently.
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Many bulkhead slips are too shallow to back in...some places post bow in only.

Docking WITH the wind AND tide is a recipe for disaster....bumping things will occur at 2 -3 times the speed easily. Damage is much more likely.

Docking in benign conditions...heck...no big deal either way.
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