Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-20-2015, 05:44 PM   #21
Guru
 
City: Hotel, CA
Country: Fried
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,328
Diamond plate is the easiest to keep clean of the skid resistant surfaces available. Knee pads are mandatory equipment in most engine rooms.
__________________
Advertisement

__________________
Craig

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
CPseudonym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 06:14 PM   #22
Guru
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by FF View Post
TAD has it right again. There are very few yards able to build a genuime ocean voyager.

To find one start with the builders , as many will also be brokers for their boats , even decades old ones,

This is my first choice ,

ABEKING & RASMUSSEN: A&R

abeking.com/


Translate this pageAbeking and Rasmussen


ABEKING & RASMUSSEN. Map. ABEKING & RASMUSSEN. Start. Video Statements. Misson Statements. A&R Heute. Yachten. Marineschiffe/ Küstenwache.
If you drop the trawler or power boat aspect for big open water ocean use and go to sail you don't need most of that expensive plumbing and electric bundle. Many tens of thousands of much simpler sailing craft have and are presently ocean hopping with less for less. The reason why I keep coming back to this is that the relatively new push to send small power boats across oceans with owners that demand full cottage accommodation stretches what a 50-60 ft motor boat can easily do while sail is naturally suited to that purpose (sans the luxury cottage). It is about the prime rule of matching a boat to its intended use. The probable percentage of boats believed to be ocean hoppers that actually do so with any frequency is probably quite small so maybe just a boat and a contract with a boat shipper makes more sense if you want to cruise Europe or Asia etc.
__________________

eyschulman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 06:40 PM   #23
Guru
 
TDunn's Avatar
 
City: Maine Coast
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Tortuga
Vessel Model: Nunes Brothers Raised Deck Cruiser
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 670
I support the idea of sail for bluewater passages. My Allied 36 is not designed as a bluewater boat, but it can take more than I can. I have had it out in some rough weather(40-50 knots and 12-15 foot seas) and felt safe if not comfortable. Similarly I have sailed comfortably on a Hinckley 49 in 30-35 knots and 8-12 foot seas. Not conditions I would even consider taking my cruiser out in. A well found sailboat can handle bluewater conditions and has unlimited range. Most 50 foot sailboats are hardly spartan when it comes to accommodations.



This boat is currently sitting on the dock about 100' from my boat. It is certainly capable of ocean crossings and the accommodations are several cuts above almost all blue water capable powerboats.

2003 70' Hinckley Sou'wester 70 For Sale - BLUE MUSE - HMY Yachts

If you want to talk power blue water boats this boat is on the next dock at the marina. Spirit of Zopilote. Very capable blue water trawler. Built by Northern Marine. Not as spiffy as the sailboat Blue Muse though.


TDunn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 08:49 PM   #24
Guru
 
Nomad Willy's Avatar
 
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,703
It would seem obvious that bigger is better but is it?

One would need to immobilize the body sooner but what actually are the limitations of size?

In Alaska I thought of a seatbelt like thing to keep me from loosing my grip and go flying accross the wheelhouse slamming into the other side .. The galley to port in this case.
__________________
Eric

North Western Washington State USA
Nomad Willy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 09:06 PM   #25
Guru
 
ulysses's Avatar
 
City: Gulf Shores, Ala.
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Ulysses
Vessel Model: Romsdal 1963
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 876
Romsdal
ulysses is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 09:53 PM   #26
Senior Member
 
Diesel Duck's Avatar
 
City: discomfort.reactants.peanuts
Country: Colombia, South America and Huatulco, Mexico
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 466
For you Watson fans here's the location of a Watson 62... "Big Bud":

BIG BUD - Pleasure Craft: current position and details | MMSI 319123000, Callsign ZCNK7 | Registered in Cayman Is - AIS Marine Traffic

__________________
Diesel Duck
*For Sale or Trade this oceanfront Mexican villa (www.QuintaAlegria.com) for the right 'Trawler' - Nordhavn, Kadey Krogen, Diesel Duck or ???
Diesel Duck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 09:59 PM   #27
Guru
 
LarryM's Avatar
 
City: League City, TX
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Pelago
Vessel Model: Wellcraft 3300 Coastal
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 842
Quote:
Originally Posted by ulysses View Post
Romsdal
+1

In the early 70's I was given a tour of a Romsdal trawler named 'Torsk' in Long Beach. I instantly fell in love and remain so to this day. That love affair has lasted longer than any of my marriages . . . . . .
__________________
Larry
M/V Pelago
LarryM is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 10:12 PM   #28
Senior Member
 
City: Leesburg, VA
Country: United States
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 107
There is a guy who went completely around North and South America without touching land in a 27' Vega. Not a trawler, but I think that qualifies as a blue water boat.
ssobol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 10:30 PM   #29
Guru
 
healhustler's Avatar
 
City: Longboat Key, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,178
Yeah, that Watson 48 would be all the sea-cottage I'd ever need. Meat and taters.
__________________
Larry

"I'd rather be happy than dignified".
healhustler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2015, 10:54 PM   #30
Guru
 
Nomad Willy's Avatar
 
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,703
ssobol,
That would be an Albin sailboat .. "Vega 27"?
__________________
Eric

North Western Washington State USA
Nomad Willy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 12:01 AM   #31
Guru
 
kthoennes's Avatar
 
City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 857
Quote:
Originally Posted by TDunn View Post
...If you want to talk power blue water boats this boat is on the next dock at the marina. Spirit of Zopilote...
Spirit of a (turkey) vulture? Now there's an usual name.
kthoennes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 02:10 AM   #32
TF Site Team
 
Peter B's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Lotus
Vessel Model: Clipper (CHB) 34 Sedan/Europa style
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,669
Send a message via Skype™ to Peter B
Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler View Post
Yeah, that Watson 48 would be all the sea-cottage I'd ever need. Meat and taters.
And where do these Watson people happen to be..?

About us
__________________
Pete
Peter B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 02:15 AM   #33
Guru
 
Wayfarer's Avatar
 
City: Oneida Lake, NY
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Radio Flyer
Vessel Model: Wilderness Systems Aspire 105
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 784
Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler View Post
Yeah, that Watson 48 would be all the sea-cottage I'd ever need. Meat and taters.
4,200 nm range at 8 knots. That's 22 days worth of fuel. it would cost $8,000 to fill that big bastard up! Good lord. Must be nice to be rich.
__________________
Dave
Just be nice to each other, dammit.
Wayfarer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 05:06 AM   #34
TF Site Team
 
Bay Pelican's Avatar
 
City: Chicago, IL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,780
Quote:
Originally Posted by kthoennes View Post
Spirit of a (turkey) vulture? Now there's an usual name.
I believe the owners original boat, Zopilote, was lost off of Alaska/PNW and his replacement was named "Spirit of". Owner is Bruce Kesseler, the television director, among other things.
__________________
Marty
Bay Pelican is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 06:08 AM   #35
Member
 
City: Mt Pearl
Country: Canada
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 20
I guess I should have narrowed this down a little. Under $2m and undeR 60'.
zoomie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 06:45 AM   #36
TF Site Team
 
Peter B's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Lotus
Vessel Model: Clipper (CHB) 34 Sedan/Europa style
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,669
Send a message via Skype™ to Peter B
Quote:
Originally Posted by zoomie View Post
I guess I should have narrowed this down a little. Under $2m and undeR 60'.
Aaaaw..now you tell us..!
__________________
Pete
Peter B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 06:52 AM   #37
Senior Member
 
Brisyboy's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Malagari
Vessel Model: Island Gypsy 36 Europa
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 189
Hang on............hang on...putting limits - size and $$$$$ is cramping everyones style a bit - next you`ll be defining what type of anchor it should have - BTW, anyone got an opinion on anchors?
__________________
George
Brisbane
IG 36 Europa
Brisyboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 07:21 AM   #38
Senior Member
 
knotheadcharters's Avatar
 
City: Jacksonville, FL
Vessel Name: Amar la Vida
Vessel Model: 1989 Carver Californian 48' MY
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 327
I really enjoy Big Bud. The funny thing is while I was working in Afghanistan a couple of years ago I drew up my dream boat, line drawings all specs right down to what equipment it would have and it came out looking pretty much exactly like Big Bud. Every system was very simple and everything was easily accessible with removable panels. Drew her up at 55 foot, so IMO the best Trawler/Passagemaker is one that is comfortable but NOT complicated. It should have what is needed for self sustainment in remote locations when help is not within arms reach where the everyday owner with a few tools can fix and maintain her.
knotheadcharters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 08:19 AM   #39
Guru
 
Off Duty's Avatar
 
City: Tampa
Country: USA
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 843
Quote:
Originally Posted by knotheadcharters View Post
...IMO the best Trawler/Passagemaker is one that is comfortable but NOT complicated. It should have what is needed for self sustainment in remote locations when help is not within arms reach where the everyday owner with a few tools can fix and maintain her.
a "BUB", Bug Out Boat.
I like it!
Off Duty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-2015, 08:23 AM   #40
TF Site Team
 
Bay Pelican's Avatar
 
City: Chicago, IL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,780
At $2,000,000 US and 55 feet we are conceding the ocean crossing market to the sailboats as well as a few fairly affluent. There are Nordhavn 46s available for under $500,000 US and they are quite capable of circumnavigating.

They even come with two anchors on the bow.
__________________

__________________
Marty
Bay Pelican is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012