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Old 06-23-2015, 03:03 AM   #21
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What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!!


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator.


I like this post, and perspective, A LOT!!! Way too sensitive about everything these days. A little smoke wafts for 15 min. Big whoop! There are so few things that ARE actually a big whoop. Save your outrage for those few things in life.
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:46 AM   #22
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Not many BBQ are on 24/7. or are fired with diesel.
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:50 AM   #23
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What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!!


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator.

Thank YOI.

I too have had Kevin's concern, but reading your response makes me think i need to not worry so much.

I don't cook meat inside the boat so I use my BBQ a lot. If close to others, I will modify what I cook, avoiding foods that produce a lot of smoke (but so good taste)
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:02 AM   #24
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We live on Bay Pelican 5 months a year and cook on board most nights. About half the time we use the propane barbecue mounted on the aft deck cap rail.

Don't understand the safety concern with a propane barbecue as opposed to our propane stove/oven.

As far as the smoke I must cook differently or perhaps we are referring to charcoal barbecues. The smell of cooked meat or fish is a different story, but then we should definitely ban pizza deliveries and clearly my popcorn popper would have to go.
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:18 AM   #26
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Don't understand the safety concern with a propane barbecue as opposed to our propane stove/oven.

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We don't use either. No propane on the boat at all.
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Old 06-23-2015, 09:58 AM   #27
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Larry, I'm thinking seriously about a stay at Ortega Landing. Are you and Lena coming back?
I'll be back this weekend and then for most of July. SOF is back in town on the 6th or so. We'd love to see you. We can't BBQ on the boat but there lots of good local options.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:15 AM   #28
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Our harbor has a no BBQ rule like others but I and others ignore it. My thinking is that they were meaning charcol briquette bbq's because of a real or perceived fire risk.
I've arrived at the same conclusion although I don't know if my marina has a "no barbecue" rule. So many people are doing it (barbecuing) I have to believe it's allowed.
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One of those "don't ask, don't tell" marinas I suppose.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:26 AM   #30
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I've arrived at the same conclusion although I don't know if my marina has a "no barbecue" rule. So many people are doing it (barbecuing) I have to believe it's allowed.
Many marinas have no barbecue rules as in some instances insurers have them and in others they are local ordinances. In most apartment complexes you can't grill with an open flame on any balcony or patio or anywhere within a certain distance of the building. Some complexes that have struggle with compliance won't even allow a grill on the patio. I've seen the no barbecue rules more in covered marinas and in some of those people choose uncovered simply to have the privilege of grilling.

That is one of the advantages we have with electric grills that regardless of the marina rules we're ok. The rules always apply to open flames, whether charcoal or gas.

A marina that has it banned in its rules and then still allows it is fighting with fire in many ways. They've assumed significant potential liability. They'd be better off with no rule against it.
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Many marinas have no barbecue rules as in some instances insurers have them and in others they are local ordinances. In most apartment complexes you can't grill with an open flame on any balcony or patio or anywhere within a certain distance of the building. Some complexes that have struggle with compliance won't even allow a grill on the patio. I've seen the no barbecue rules more in covered marinas and in some of those people choose uncovered simply to have the privilege of grilling.

That is one of the advantages we have with electric grills that regardless of the marina rules we're ok. The rules always apply to open flames, whether charcoal or gas.

A marina that has it banned in its rules and then still allows it is fighting with fire in many ways. They've assumed significant potential liability. They'd be better off with no rule against it.
Which...when I have asked with enthusiasm isn't really the rule.

If the marina was smart...the fine print from the insurance company may include electric. Even electric grills have flare ups as I have witnessed on my own...

Insurance companies may all word it differently...but in reality...that's what they want...no open flames of any kind...but then they have lost their minds as candles, lighters and who knows what elese would be banned.
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Which...when I have asked with enthusiasm isn't really the rule.

If the marina was smart...the fine print from the insurance company may include electric. Even electric grills have flare ups as I have witnessed on my own...

Insurance companies may all word it differently...but in reality...that's what they want...no open flames of any kind...but then they have lost their minds as candles, lighters and who knows what elese would be banned.
I should have been more specific. There are electric grills that flare and those that don't. However, there are electric grills UL approved for indoor use. When I'm talking electric I'm talking about Kenyon and Gaggenau and such. They do not have open flames. Not the electric grills that look just like gas grills and do have flames, such as Weber or Coleman or Char Broil. The danger of the type electric grill we have is significantly less than that of a frying pan.

Oh, and I must admit to being a gadgetholic. I've never seen a kitchen gadget/appliance I didn't want to try. Over the years I've tried virtually every indoor countertop grill imaginable. Grills like Breville Smart Grill do a great job cooking but they are smoky and a mess to clean up. Also the grates wear easily. Even the basic Sanyo grill does a pretty decent job but is also a mess to clean. I never liked Foreman for steaks, although I did for chicken. The old models were difficult to clean. New ones perhaps not as much, but I haven't tried one in years. Now at home we do have Kenyon indoors. We have gas outdoors. I built my obsession with indoor grills when I lived in NC and some days were not conducive to outdoors. But my latest and most favorite gadget. T-Fal Optigrill. It does everything it says. It cleans up easily. It's light system for telling you the doneness actually works. It's not equal to an outdoor gas grill, but it does a quite decent job on burgers and steaks, a great job on hot dogs and sausages and pork tenderloin, an amazing job on a london broil, and a perfect job on grilling skinless chicken breasts.
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I guess the rare electric grill is totally flame proof...I doubt many insurance companies will spell just those out...


The point is "outdoor cooking" is likely to have flareups and good luck trying to explain your flareup free grill to the unreasonable marina manager.


Hey...don't get me wrong....most boats are electrical fires about to happen...grills are the least of my concerns.


With the 4th of July coming up...all the marina neighbors are terrorists in that their fireworks land on peoples canvas and sometimes do burn holes in it.


The world aint perfect and I can live with risk...just not with the people who become unreasonable when their actions are obviously dangerous.


I'd go back to an electric grill but like many boat things...just not in the cards for this one.
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The smell of a BBQ is just one of those summer smells which have traditionally been a good thing. Next thing you know people will be wringing their hands when they want to mow their lawn, should the overwhelming smell of grass offend someone.

(I've never been in a marina where I have seen any rules about firing up your rail mounted gas grill. And technically, these are much safer than all the gas ovens and ranges we have and use in a enclosed space)(Oh and give me a wok and I'll show you a flare-up on a "flare-up proof" range any time.)
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The smell of a BBQ is just one of those summer smells which have traditionally been a good thing. Next thing you know people will be wringing their hands when they want to mow their lawn, should the overwhelming smell of grass offend someone.

(I've never been in a marina where I have seen any rules about firing up your rail mounted gas grill. And technically, these are much safer than all the gas ovens and ranges we have and use in a enclosed space)(Oh and give me a wok and I'll show you a flare-up on a "flare-up proof" range any time.)
As to the grass mowing. I'm allergic to it. So, if I see someone mowing their lawn, since I'm very much a minority in that, I stay away and perhaps take some medication as well. At home, I schedule that as a good time to go run errands, maybe lunch out.

The restrictions I've seen on grills have mostly been covered inland docks.
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The Admiral and I BBQ a lot. If someone complained I would offer them a dog and beer and say come aboard.
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Oh man, he said the "A" word.
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We switched to an electric grill and it works great. No flare-ups, no propane bottles, no problems.
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Oh man, he said the "A" word.

A, as in awesome boat shoes?
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We ate out on a friends boat with a Miele electric grill on the aft deck and it worked pretty well- or at least I know my steak tasted great.
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