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Old 04-29-2015, 09:30 AM   #81
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Cardude, I have no idea as I have never run that part of the ICW but when I left Crystal river, I only had to average 10 mph to arrive at dusk at Dog Island (Carabelle). By 12:00 I knew I wasn't going to make it so headed towards Panama. We arrived at the safety fairway turn off to Pensacola at dawn, the weather had settled and not wanting to waste a day in Panama, headed for Pensacola.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:45 AM   #82
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Kevin, then why is hand steering also sloppy? Am I going to slow at 8.5 Kts for the relatively small rudders?
It can be a long list of things to check for sloppy steering. One of which is (out of the water if possible) test to be sure there is no movement of the rudder post in the "yoke." Also, in many planing designed vessels, small rudders can work fine at say 14 to 16 knots but not so at 8 knots.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:42 PM   #83
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Dimer2,
Here are the port side engine hatches. The boat had them installed when I bought it.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:45 PM   #84
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Not sure what happened to the other pics I posted? Here is one more
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Well it's upside down but it at least there. Here's another assembled.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:58 PM   #86
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Dimer2,
Here are the port side engine hatches. The boat had them installed when I bought it.

Thats Handy!!!

I'd like to do that and another set under the sette to Starboard
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Yes, the concept of putting the engines overhead sure clears some space below.
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:12 PM   #88
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Totally agree Kevin. Hatches under the settee would be nice for the outboard side of the SB engine. My holding tank is there but it would be nice to at least be able to be outboard of the tranny. I broke off the hynautic line to the shifter last time I was trying to get myself out of that hole. I feel that the stock configuration for a twin engine boat the access is ok and with all my extra hatches access is quite good.
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:23 PM   #89
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I broke off the hynautic line to the shifter last time I was trying to get myself out of that hole.



I thought I was the only one!!

I broke that same fitting while replacing a starter on the starboard engine in Ketchikan Alaska of all places.
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Woodsea, that's exactly what I hope to do. As noted above, we have decided to move on tomorrow....should be home next Wed/Thurs if all goes well. Thanks for posting those pics, now the admiral understands why I have to "cut up" her boat.
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Spent the night in Ingrams Bayou, nice quiet spot and now start the 100 mile trek across Biloxi bay and if all goes well, the Gulfport small craft harbor tonight. That would leave a short trip to the blind Rigolets before tackling New Orleans.


I checked my manual for the steering system and 20 -25 psi is recommended. I left mine at 22. I also read the manual on "tuning" the auto pilot. I did not understand half of it! I will have to read it several more times....
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Spent the night in Ingrams Bayou, nice quiet spot and now start the 100 mile trek across Biloxi bay and if all goes well, the Gulfport small craft harbor tonight. That would leave a short trip to the blind Rigolets before tackling New Orleans.


I checked my manual for the steering system and 20 -25 psi is recommended. I left mine at 22. I also read the manual on "tuning" the auto pilot. I did not understand half of it! I will have to read it several more times....
Tuning the autopilot takes some practice in different conditions but is definitely a task worth practicing and a skill worth mastering.
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I also read the manual on "tuning" the auto pilot. I did not understand half of it! I will have to read it several more times....
By "tuning", what exactly does that mean? I can "Auto, Track and calibrate" my AP but the word "Tune" is giving me pause. Does "tune" mean "calibrate?"
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By "tuning", what exactly does that mean? I can "Auto, Track and calibrate" my AP but the word "Tune" is giving me pause. Does "tune" mean "calibrate?"
By "Tuning" I'm meaning primarily adjust the sensitivity.

With some you can even set up multiple profiles for different conditions. With others you can choose to incorporate thrusters or not.

Things like mode of follow up with rudder. Interface with Compass and use of waypoints, and some have no drift features. Some even allow pre-programming certain types of turns.

Alarm settings. Speed adjustments. Setting the increments for changing of headings.

Each autopilot has it's on little tweaks and uniqueness but we've found that many have never read the entire manual or played with all the possible options.

i know Raymarine has different tracking modes and some even have patterns you can program, generally used by fishermen.
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By "Tuning" I'm meaning primarily adjust the sensitivity.

some have no drift features. Some even allow pre-programming certain types of turns.

Alarm settings. Speed adjustments. Setting the increments for changing of headings. .
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Isn't some of what you've stated a function of the plotter and not the AP?
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Isn't some of what you've stated a function of the plotter and not the AP?
Well, some is and integration is different as well. But some of the settings are autopilot and others are at least controlled by your autopilot controller.

Often you'll have different settings for the direction of the seas and to deal with issues like the OP describes. There are even some with advanced features like weather adaptability.

I had an acquaintance whose autopilot was driving him crazy in slow conditions with following seas as it was trying to adjust basically with each wave. One change of setting and problem gone.
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On my autopilot tuning is adjusting the parameters to suit your boat.

I'm taking this from memory but I thought I adjusted parameters like rudder response time and I think rate of travel.

Those things directly affect the autopilots ability to maintain directional control, which I think the OP is having trouble with.

Thinking about this directional control issue there are other parameters to think of as well, and other things to check.

If, for example there was an issue with the heading sensor then the autopilot would exhibit a lack of directional control as well. On my boat for example I do not like the Simrad heading sensor. I find that it is not as good as the Furuno heading sensor that my Nav suite uses. So, I programmed the autopilot to prefer the Furuno heading sensor.
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dimer2 great adventure. Good info Kevin. I will just keep following and learning.
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You can adjust rudder gain and rudder response to help with comfort and usability

If flat sea conditions you want lower settings to keep the boat from over wandering or inducing a roll from too much rudder and too fast....

If a bad following sea, you want higher settings to keep the boat on course without losing auto control.... "off course" and sounding the alarm.
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Well made the Gulfport Small craft harbor. Coming through Mobil bay was real choppy and again had to hand steer, auto pilot didn't stand a chance. It was like a washing machine. I will read the book again and try to do some of what Keven and BandB suggest as I am sure it is something as simple (or complicated) as setting it up correctly. Once into Mississippi things calmed down even with 16 kt winds. Diesel was $2.68 a gallon!! I even filled my pockets! Decided to have the day off tomorrow and head for New Orleans Sunday.
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