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Old 07-23-2015, 12:48 PM   #1
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Barge passing etiquette

I need to brush up on my barge passing skills. I've passed a few that have been pretty straightforward port to port oncoming pass situations on straight sections.

I've tried to hail the tug by the name shown on AIS to ask if they want me to do something special, but have yet to get an answer. Have tried on channel 13 and 16.

Am I doing it wrong?
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:06 PM   #2
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We pass port-to-port unless it looks like it won't work, staying on the starboard side of the channel. We try to time the passing where's there is less risk, avoiding tight channel curves.


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Old 07-23-2015, 01:26 PM   #3
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I need to brush up on my barge passing skills. I've passed a few that have been pretty straightforward port to port oncoming pass situations on straight sections.

I've tried to hail the tug by the name shown on AIS to ask if they want me to do something special, but have yet to get an answer. Have tried on channel 13 and 16.

Am I doing it wrong?
Channel 13 is usually monitored on the bridge of commercial boats. I usually get an answer on 13. Most appreciate a heads up on your passing plan. I will say that something to watch out for is the pusher will usually swing wide rather quickly in any kind of sharp bend. Just be aware, and look for clear areas to pass.
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I need to brush up on my barge passing skills. I've passed a few that have been pretty straightforward port to port oncoming pass situations on straight sections.

I've tried to hail the tug by the name shown on AIS to ask if they want me to do something special, but have yet to get an answer. Have tried on channel 13 and 16.

Am I doing it wrong?
Where? As Don pointed out on the ICW and Atlantic coastal...you will usually get them on 16/13.

If around Tampa bay maybe they were up/conversing with Vessel Traffic Services?
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It was around Pensacola.

I'll keep trying to call them on 13/16.

No problems yet.
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Dang, Mobile Bay is ugly. I feel like I'm back in Texas.

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Where are you going to anchor tonight ? Ship Island maybe?
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There's a good anchorage inside Horn Island.
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Not sure. I'm not due in Nola until the 25th so no big rush.

Definitely anchoring. I'll check those two out.

I'm not going ashore. Don't want to haul the dingy off the roof. 😁
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Any trick to crossing the Mobile Bay shipping channel, or do I just "floor it" and get up to 8 knots?

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Never had a problem crossing in a sailboat at 4-5 knots.
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I had an interesting situation in April somewhere in the Inside Passage in BC. I was taking a long sweeping right hand curve and there was a tug and tow coming the other way. At first glance it looked like we could easily pass port to port. But I also had this feeling that the tug was swinging out wide in order to cut back in and take the corner on the inside. At least something didn't feel "right" and I was concerned. I saw the tug on AIS and called it by name on 16. The captain immediately came back and without being asked replied "Request you pass red to red, cap'n" - I confirmed (starboard to starboard) and then immediately another tug behind came on the radio and made the same request. As I moved left in the channel and the tug cut across it went from seeming wrong to seeming right. It's hard to describe but it was a new passing situation for me and I didn't have the experience to know how it would all play out.

That was a long-winded way of saying I encountered at least two tugs who responded on channel 16

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Around here it usually goes something like this for passing a tow named RIO
I don't have AIS yet so get the name off the transom, And, If west of the Mississippi, hail on 13.
"Rio, this is Gumbo, the pleasure boat astern calling" when he answers I say "Captain I'd like to pass you when it is convenient , what side do you prefer?" If there is a reason he wants to wait he'll say so, but, usually answer "come by on the one (or two) whistle" Passing or meeting the "One" means you will veer to and pass on the right, starboard, side. If he tells you to come by on the "two" you will be left, port side. He may say come by on either side, tell him which one you will use. After the operation give them a thanks and "have a good day captain" others will be listening too.
Usually, around here, if meeting in a straight, wide channel they will usually expect you to just go on by port to port maybe won't even reply, but I'd always call when overtaking.
The tow captains are usually friendly and will answer questions, but, they have rough days and might be grumpy once in a while. Big wakes can bother them too, be careful of that. Always make sure you have plenty of room to pass at a speed that you won't be kicking up too big a wake.
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Ok. Thanks for that info everyone.

Just crossed the Mobile ship channel. Going to try to figure out where to anchor in a few hours.
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I always talk to the tows, sometimes they need to do some strange (to some boaters) things. AIS helps to call them by name. First one I meet I the morning I always ask who is behind him so I can call them by name.
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Try south side of dauphin island behind golf course. We use it all the time. Active captain shows them too. Northwest end of dauphin island also good but pretty open. Should have good bottom though
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Try south side of dauphin island behind golf course. We use it all the time. Active captain shows them too. Northwest end of dauphin island also good but pretty open. Should have good bottom though

I was looking at that on AC. Thought about continuing on but it's getting close to Rum-thirty.

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Oh wait. It's only 3pm.

What about Petit Bois? Looks interesting. Should be there around 5ish.
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I was looking at that on AC. Thought about continuing on but it's getting close to Rum-thirty.

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Oh wait. It's only 3pm.

What about Petit Bois? Looks interesting. Should be there around 5ish.
Rum thirty sounds good , had me some Ron Matusalem Gran Reserva last night and gonna have some more tonight and toast your crossing Mobil Ship Channel .
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Passing barges?

We don't pass them .. they pass us. And we get the hell out of the way.
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"Request you pass red to red, cap'n" - I confirmed (starboard to starboard)
Red is port. Green is starboard. It refers to your sidelights. Tows use it a lot, as well as "one the 1 or on the 2" Glad you made it OK!
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