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11-16-2016, 05:32 PM
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Senior Member
City: St James City Fl
Vessel Name: Paradox
Vessel Model: Mainship
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 165
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Back up Camera, Watch Engine Room
Hi anyone happy with their camera system? I would like to watch when I back into slip and monitor engine room. Wireless or wired? Use a tablet or laptop to view? What do you use? part numbers please
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11-16-2016, 05:44 PM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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I will not be a lot of help but...
I have a rear facing camera on my boat that is mounted on the radar arch. It is a Raymarine and is integrated into my plotter display. I usually keep a window with the camera open on my second plotter display. Since I have poor visibility behind, it is nice to keep a watch behind without peeking around outside the PH. I use it much like a rear view mirror in a car. I could add a camera for the ER but have felt no need.
With the current placement of the camera it doesn't work for backing into a slip. The aft corners of the boat are hidden from the camera by the boat deck.
Yes, I am very happy with the camera system.
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11-16-2016, 06:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 380
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Whatever system you decide upon,consider a reverse image camera for the stern one.One less thing to think about,otherwise, you have to mentally reverse the image, because what you see on the left of the screen is actually the starboard side,and so on.
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11-16-2016, 07:10 PM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tinped
Whatever system you decide upon,consider a reverse image camera for the stern one.One less thing to think about,otherwise, you have to mentally reverse the image, because what you see on the left of the screen is actually the starboard side,and so on.
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Not quite sure I get that.
Wouldn't you want the screen to show you the scene exactly as it would be if you turned around and looked?
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11-16-2016, 07:20 PM
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Guru
City: Miami River
Vessel Name: Gotcha
Vessel Model: Grand Banks. Heritage. 54
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,988
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Menzies - that is how my rear camera is set up, it almost shows the corner of the starboard and port sides. It helps but I'd not perfect, I would rather have remote controls that I could take to the stern while backing in. I also have six cameras in the bilge, all cameras are shown on Garmin plotters.
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11-16-2016, 07:56 PM
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#6
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,267
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This is a live shot of my engine room.
Dlink, $89
I'm over a hundred miles from the boat right now. Could be on the other side of the planet for all it matters.
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11-16-2016, 07:58 PM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
This is a live shot of my engine room.
Dlink, $89
I'm over a hundred miles from the boat right now. Could be on the other side of the planet for all it matters.
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How does it connect to the web? 3G on request? Wireless set up on the boat with attached hard wire?
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11-16-2016, 08:02 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,267
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Here's the salon, live...
Gotta love night vision
Yes, Dlink $89
Wireless of course.
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11-16-2016, 08:05 PM
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#9
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
How does it connect to the web? 3G on request? Wireless set up on the boat with attached hard wire?
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I have a Cradlepoint MBR1200B router. $230
Plugged into that is a AT&T USB MIFI unit. $49
The boat network supports my alarm system, and when I'm on the boat it supports tv (apple TV) and laptops, and even a VOIP phone linking back to my office.
The AT&T MIFI unit uses my shared data plan.
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11-16-2016, 09:14 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Reverse monitors are like rear view mirrors. Our minds are already engaged to think along those lines. That's why ALL car reverse cameras are aligned the same way. If you don't use a reverse image camera then you'll likely find it clumsy at best...
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11-16-2016, 10:31 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
Reverse monitors are like rear view mirrors. Our minds are already engaged to think along those lines. That's why ALL car reverse cameras are aligned the same way. If you don't use a reverse image camera then you'll likely find it clumsy at best...
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As a FYI, All the Dlink cameras we ave can do forward, or reverse, or right side up or upside down, or any combination
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11-17-2016, 04:27 AM
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#12
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Veteran Member
City: Gold Coast
Vessel Name: Serenity 2.0
Vessel Model: Mimosa 40
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
I have a Cradlepoint MBR1200B router. $230
Plugged into that is a AT&T USB MIFI unit. $49
The boat network supports my alarm system, and when I'm on the boat it supports tv (apple TV) and laptops, and even a VOIP phone linking back to my office.
The AT&T MIFI unit uses my shared data plan.
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I like the sound of this setup. What sort of data do these cameras consume?
Ryan
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11-17-2016, 05:03 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Chicago, IL
Vessel Name: Bay Pelican
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,993
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Boyo makes a couple of night vision cameras. One allows normal vision, the other can be switched between normal and backup (reverse). These are wired systems which was my preference. I combined these with a generic 7" monitor which allows for two imputs. Thus I can toggle between a rear view and a close in side view for docking.
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Marty
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11-17-2016, 01:24 PM
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#14
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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Engine room in pitch black but infra red lights it up
Rear view.
Car reversing camera $78 delivered to my door from ebay
Can rotate image in all directions.
This one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-IR-18-...3D252276700282
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11-17-2016, 01:37 PM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
Car reversing camera $78 delivered to my door from ebay
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Would never have guessed!
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11-17-2016, 04:01 PM
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#16
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,267
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhinoc
I like the sound of this setup. What sort of data do these cameras consume?
Ryan
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Almost nothing if you artn't wantching them activly. I do not know the exact amount though.
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11-18-2016, 04:14 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Gold Coast
Vessel Name: Serenity 2.0
Vessel Model: Mimosa 40
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksanders
Almost nothing if you artn't wantching them activly. I do not know the exact amount though.
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Cheers ksanders,
I'm definitely going to explore this further. I've got a spare 4g router that I could throw a shared sim in which would most likely do the job. I'm just weary of the potential data consumption.
Ryan
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11-28-2016, 02:30 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Gold Coast
Vessel Name: Serenity 2.0
Vessel Model: Mimosa 40
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 50
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Well, I can report back after putting 1 camera in the boat with my 4GX Telstra router, it's working fantastically. So much so that I've ordered a second camera with PT capability. I'll place a fixed camera in the engine room for monitoring whilst underway and the PT camera in the saloon which should enable me to view the entry point as well as battery monitor etc at the helm whilst I'm away from the vessel (I get paranoid with all the battery banks on the charger after a couple of near misses and like to keep a close eye on things).
Thanks again Kev.
Ryan
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11-28-2016, 05:35 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhinoc
Well, I can report back after putting 1 camera in the boat with my 4GX Telstra router, it's working fantastically. So much so that I've ordered a second camera with PT capability. I'll place a fixed camera in the engine room for monitoring whilst underway and the PT camera in the saloon which should enable me to view the entry point as well as battery monitor etc at the helm whilst I'm away from the vessel (I get paranoid with all the battery banks on the charger after a couple of near misses and like to keep a close eye on things).
Thanks again Kev.
Ryan
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What's the data usage like?
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11-29-2016, 03:11 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Gold Coast
Vessel Name: Serenity 2.0
Vessel Model: Mimosa 40
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
What's the data usage like?
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Just checked and on each occasion I log in and look at the footage, it uses around 8 or 9 mb. Thats probably for about 30 seconds to 1 min of viewing which is all I really need for this purpose. The app has an option to view locally (same network) whilst I'm on the boat so I am hopeful that keeping the engine room camera live on the ipad whilst underway, it should only use local bandwidth and not route via the cloud. Need to confirm that though.
Ryan
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