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Old 01-27-2015, 09:21 AM   #41
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The picture of the flooded docks was at Cedar Point Marina, Sandusky Ohio, At that time one of the largest marinas on Lake Erie. High water that year.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:07 AM   #42
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Before spraying soak it in fresh water shake it out and let dry then use CRC then anti corrosion spray. Best to pull back the cover for access to everything. Water will wick up the wires so you want to try to get all the salt out.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:29 AM   #43
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Here are a couple of links.

Compass Marine How To Really good article with dissected plug parts compared

Panbo

West Marine certainly is a believer

If anyone is interested in these my brother is a dealer and has doing some special pricing for several boat owners groups... I can email you contact info.

Nice that insurance co's are recognizing & rewarding those that switch.
I'm also waiting to see if the cause of the recent Calif marina fire is electrical.
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:48 PM   #44
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Talked to the owner this week-end. When he returned from his sail, he went to plug in the connector and salt water ran out it so he knew it had fallen in the drink. He took it to a shop where they cut off a foot of the cable and put on a new plug. It was a 50 amp power cord and cost him $400. How's that for an expensive lesson?
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:58 PM   #45
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Mr. B. No 50 amp Smartplug yet as far as I know and the last time I checked, there was some question about UL approval pending.
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Old 01-31-2015, 05:03 PM   #46
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cost him $400. How's that for an expensive lesson?
Or inexpensive. The boat didn't go up in flames. I admit that electricity scares me.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:22 PM   #47
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I have found that Common Sense is an oxymoron, and it's optional equipment on humans...
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:11 PM   #48
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Also ridiculous.....till high resistance was noted....what a waste of money.

Knowing what to do trumps panic spending everytime.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:18 PM   #49
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His obituary was published many years ago........
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Well if you can't cut back the cord and change, or clean and lube, your own shore cord plug, you either better have a fat wallet or you shouldn't own a boat.
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Old 01-31-2015, 09:22 PM   #51
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Check the SmartPlug website - they now list the 50Amp plugs & inlets
Also Re: UL Approval...

"SmartPlug's 30 & 50 Amp Inlets and Connectors have passed all required testing for product safety certification by Intertek Testing Services and are now listed as ETL certified products. The ETL Listed Mark is proof of compliance with US & Canadian safety standards."
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:40 PM   #52
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Check the SmartPlug website - they now list the 50Amp plugs & inlets
Also Re: UL Approval...

"SmartPlug's 30 & 50 Amp Inlets and Connectors have passed all required testing for product safety certification by Intertek Testing Services and are now listed as ETL certified products. The ETL Listed Mark is proof of compliance with US & Canadian safety standards."
Yes, but note that it does not say "UL Approved".
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My understanding is that they can never be UL approved because part of the approval is that the plug shape meets standards. So unless you use the standard 30 amp plug shape you'll never get approved.
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Greetings,
According to THIS site. ETL compliance is accepted as equivalent to UL/CSA/CE. At least that's the way I interpret it. My only concern regarding certification was for an insurance claim situation. UL, CSA, ETL and CE: Whats the Difference?
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When we bought our boat I did not like the look of the plug. Plus the genius that built our boat put the flybridge drain directly over the shore power connection. I decided to get rid of it. I cut the end off of it and wired it directly to the main lugs of the panel. I don't need to remove the cord from the boat anyway, and screwed to the main lugs is the most secure electrical connection you are going to get. When not in use I just roll up the cord and stow it behind a seat on the flybridge. Another plus is that it does not stick out into the walkway.

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According to THIS site. ETL compliance is accepted as equivalent to UL/CSA/CE. At least that's the way I interpret it. My only concern regarding certification was for an insurance claim situation. UL, CSA, ETL and CE: Whats the Difference?
That's a good question.....

Not sure I have ever heard that an insurance claim can be denied unless they have specified....both equipment and who does the work.

Anyone with personal experience or one of our legal/insurance pros out there?
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Greetings,
Mr. ps. I suspect, and I may be wrong, that the condition of one's vessel and the equipment on board may have some bearing on an insurance claim. During our recent insurance "survey" which was absolutely necessary for policy renewal a number of "issues" were pointed out as not being in compliance with AYBC (don't get me started on THAT foolishness-Had to bit my tongue numerous times) "standards" (ya right!). It's not a leap of the imagination for a claim to be turned down if, say, your shore power cord was not certified by an underwriting agency (UL etc.).
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Old 02-01-2015, 09:18 AM   #58
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I agree with RT Firefly's post #54.

In the facility where I work, some of our electrical appliances are UL approved, some are ETL (Intertek).

ETL is a competitor to UL.

Often times ETL is cheaper to use, but, that is changing. (Products we make have to be certified by ETL or UL, VERY costly)

In the home type market we are in, most code folks across the states recognize either agency, there are still some that only recognize the UL markings.

All large retailers recognize either.
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This issue hits home, over the decades I have dropped the cord into the water many times but being a life long fresh water boater it was a non-event. A few years ago I was introduced to the alternate universe of salt water boating so the first time I dropped the cord in the water I never gave it another thought except to shake it out and plug it in. It took only four weeks and I got a call from my boats alarm system telling me the power went out. Being at home 2500 K away it was more than an inconvenience. Needless to say the cord end that got dunked was ruined, I am now much more careful and still in awe of how fast salt water destroys things. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, the reason we Cannucks drive around cars with no bodies on them is the salt slush on the roads in the winter.
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Thanks TF, this discussion has convinced me to upgrade The Promise with a Smartplug system.

BTW, on my sailboat I used a handheld VHF. No power or sailboater ever hailed me. I did use it to call the locks and bridges.

The techies around here who buy 50+ foot Tupperware boats are clueless as they drive their boats with their iPads and smartphones.
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