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Old 10-30-2018, 04:51 PM   #1
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Attessa IV collision

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Old 10-30-2018, 04:58 PM   #2
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Looks like someone’s watchkeeping abilities leave a bit to be desired. This will be an interesting one to watch unfold......

I thought AIS was supposed to make such events a thing of the past?
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:37 PM   #3
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I've fished off the Prowler, its a good sized beefy boat really surprised it didn't do more damage. It must have been a side swipe. Very sad for the loss of life here. How two boats that size cant avoid one another with a lookout, radar, ais ext. is scary. Yeah watchkeeping issues on both vessels would seem to be a likely cause.
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Old 10-30-2018, 06:15 PM   #4
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Yes, this one was a shocker.

We just circled Atessa in the harbor a few days before the accident. This is the largest Mega that comes in to SD to my knowledge. A very big boat, with a large crew.

I have also fished on the Prowler and know the boat well. It has been a fixture in SD for decades.

Regarding AIS, many of the sport boats turn them off when fishing.

Atessa- damn, not sure what the hell happened there but that crew and their actions are going to be looked at under a microscope.
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Old 10-30-2018, 06:41 PM   #5
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I would imagine that both captains and some crew on the Atessa will lose their jobs over this.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:39 PM   #6
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We passed Atessa about 3 weeks ago as it was heading south in Haro Strait. The owner owns a shipping company (and a mining construction company amongst other things) with Atessa staffed by very capable crew.

Assuming both vessels had AIS on their every move is recoverable. The investigation will be interesting.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:47 PM   #7
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We passed Atessa about 3 weeks ago as it was heading south in Haro Strait. The owner owns a shipping company (and a mining construction company amongst other things) with Atessa staffed by very capable crew.

Assuming both vessels had AIS on their every move is recoverable. The investigation will be interesting.
Attessa IV was involved in this collision. Attessa (no #) is also in San Diego.
Attessa was Dennis Washington's earlier boat, a mere 265(?) ft, small compared to the Attessa IV at 100m (332'). His shipyard had this boat insde, completely redoing a 90m yacht bought from Evergreen (container ships) as a 10 yr old with "good bones". Refit took 4 years. Lots of pix online.

Both boats show up on AIS currently, so no doubt whatsoever they had it at the time of the collision.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:49 PM   #8
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My wife and I were on an NCL (Norwegian Cruise Line) cruise that docked in San Diego on Tuesday last week. The Attessa IV was tied up alongside the bulkhead which we were perpendicular to. It's sister ship, or what I assumed to be Attessa was anchored slightly out in the bay. I put the binos on both and marveled at their size. 3 nights later this accident occurred. Shame.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:54 PM   #9
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Here are a couple of links with more info on the yachts:

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Old 10-30-2018, 11:26 PM   #10
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All I can think of is "WOW".
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:44 AM   #11
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Yes, will be interesting to see how fault is assigned and weighted. The yacht hit the Prowler on its starboard side.
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AIS or no AIS, a 65 ft vessel makes a heck of a radar target. Someone wasn't looking for quite a while. OOOPPPSSS!!!
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Lets wait for the investigation
I have a very good idea what happened
Lets not just guess or condemn anyone for now
it is sad that this even happened
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Lets wait for the investigation
I have a very good idea what happened
Lets not just guess or condemn anyone for now
it is sad that this even happened
Why? What possible harm could be caused by discussing this and even indulging in speculation? This is an Internet forum, not a board of inquiry.
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Lets wait for the investigation
I have a very good idea what happened
Lets not just guess or condemn anyone for now
it is sad that this even happened
Would you like to share you thoughts on what happened ??
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Your right this forum is for discussion
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Old 11-01-2018, 08:21 AM   #17
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Not much info to go on with this incident. Only the stbd side damage on the fish boat which suggests it was the give way boat, but even thatís not certain. We donít know how the boats may have maneuvered just prior to the collision. And AIS track would tell a lot, but none so far. And no witness accounts that would also fill in pieces of the puzzle. About the only thing we know is that the hit each other, and when that happens everyone has failed their duties. Given the tragic outcome, I sure would hate to be either of those captains.
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This comment is not about placing blame, but one of genuine confusion. There were 28 people on board the 65' fishing vessel that was struck on it's starboard quarter. My confusion comes from this thought: With 28 people on a 65' boat, without regard to who is the stand on vs give way vessel, how is it possible that nobody saw this coming in time to take measures to avoid the impact? Nobody?

Despite how that sounds, I am not passing judgement. It might just show how hard it is to see another boat at night. Even with proper running lights (assuming they were working correctly) it can still be hard to see. There is no mention of high speed, so assuming a lower speed, there would be considerable time to act if one saw it coming. I love to boat at night, but I will admit it can be difficult to see other boats on the water.
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<<at night>>it can be difficult to see other boats on the water.
That is very true. Having been in the aviation world (We're going unless we legally can't) for 36 years when I retire in a few I will be happy to do as much of my boating as possible in daylight with proper visibility and sea state, and stay put and watch it if it is crappy.
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I can understand how this can happen. I do a few trips a year to fish in the Gulf Stream. We usually leave about 2AM and run hull speed to get there at sunrise. All the crew are somewhat knowledgeable mariners. Lowest one on totem pole gets helm duty. All he has to do is keep a lookout both visually and by radar, and don't hit ANYTHING. I take the boat out the inlet, set AP, give a briefing and crawl in my bunk.

Once I woke up about 5am and came up to the helm. Helmsman was fast asleep!! Boat was running fine and on course. We got lucky. That boy received severe grief from me and the rest of the crew.
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