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Old 11-01-2014, 03:39 AM   #1
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Anchor useage

Don't anchor much. A couple times a year overnight with six-hour tidal reversals as well as a rare lunch stop. Still, in my local waters (ignoring the Delta), anchoring vessels are almost always daytime recreational fishermen. Here is a rare view of a motor vessel (with a rope rode) apparently taking a lunch break. Perhaps a lunch hook is what most boaters need for an anchor.

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Old 11-01-2014, 04:42 AM   #2
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Graceful:


Not graceful:


Bashfully waiting to perform:

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Old 11-01-2014, 10:03 AM   #3
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The beauty of the right setup and windlass is no lunch hook is needed.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:23 AM   #4
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When I anchor I want to stay put regardless of what meal I'm eating, therefor I will use my main anchor.

I also don't own a "breakfast or dinner" anchor.

As a safety device I want to be able to deploy and recover my anchor at any time from the wheel house under even adverse conditions, it may some day save the boat.
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Old 11-01-2014, 11:44 AM   #5
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On any boat that I am responsible for I want my "main" anchor to be sufficient for any condition that I may encounter except wind in excess of gale force. I want it ready to deploy and retrieve quickly.
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We eat lunch underway or ashore so have no need for the lunch hook.

However a small anchor w no chain and a light 1/2" line may come in handy.

But yes Mark .. judging by what I see on the bows of many boats you probably are mostly right. There is a 45' boat one over from us on the hard that shows no evidence of having ground tackle at all. Nice clean looking bow though.

The guy next to us has a Navy anchor.
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When I anchor I want to stay put regardless of what meal I'm eating, therefor I will use my main anchor.

I also don't own a "breakfast or dinner" anchor.

As a safety device I want to be able to deploy and recover my anchor at any time from the wheel house under even adverse conditions, it may some day save the boat.
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On any boat that I am responsible for I want my "main" anchor to be sufficient for any condition that I may encounter except wind in excess of gale force. I want it ready to deploy and retrieve quickly.
I'm with you guys. With the right anchor and equipment, no 'lunch hook' is required.

When we were waiting 20 mins for the Petaluma Bridge operator to show up to work, I just dropped the hook midchannel. It was as simple as pushing a button. Two other boats motored in the narrow channel countering the wind and one tied up alongside a docked tug or barge.



As much as I anchor, I wouldn't be without a self-deploying, one-finger anchoring system.
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:54 PM   #8
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"Lunch hook?" Lunch hook too me is 3:1 of chain out vrs 6:1 for overnight.

I do have a second "storm anchor" which I have only used twice in 30 years. It can be deployed in addition to the main, in high wind/soft bottom conditions.
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We anchor 90% of the time. If I'm expecting any real windy conditions I'll go for a buoy if one is available. Or an outright storm I'll go for a dock if it's available and within reach time wise. We have a 40# Danforth and 250 ft. of 5/16 chain and controls at both helms. Here is another shot of something graceful and with anchor choices. This is 65ft. Feadship.
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All you guys that talk about deploying the anchor from the helm. Do you not have safety lanyards on your anchors? Or is this a thing reserved for the planing hull set.

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Yes, I have a safety lanyard that stays connected if not anchoring. I've never had an unintentional deployment where it was needed.

When I'm out fishing, the rode stays untethered.

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Yes, we do. When we are coming into an anchorage at slow speed I walk out and remove it and take the cap off the chain pipe, go back to the helm and find that perfect spot to drop it. Sometimes the mate likes to deploy from the foredeck using the foot controls and I don't have to do anything except look Cap't. like.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:42 PM   #13
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The beauty of the right setup and windlass is no lunch hook is needed.
I was alluding to the observation that some boats appear to be using lunch hooks for their main anchor.
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Old 11-01-2014, 05:46 PM   #14
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Two other boats motored in the narrow channel countering the wind and one tied up alongside a docked tug or barge.
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It was we who temporarily docked. Easier than setting/retrieving an anchor and it saved the engine from idling.
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Yes, I have a safety lanyard that stays connected if not anchoring. I've never had an unintentional deployment where it was needed.



Hey Al. . . Did you add that Sampson Post?? Looks like it could easily hold the Queen Mary!!
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It was we who temporarily docked. Easier than setting/retrieving an anchor and it saved the engine from idling.
Didn't want to "out" you, buddy! Just making the point that with the right setup, it's easier to push the one button to anchor than drift or tie the boat to something solid.
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Hey Al. . . Did you add that Sampson Post?? Looks like it could easily hold the Queen Mary!!
Larry, the PO had that custom made for the boat. It's very stout with a SS backing plate that I think is larger than the base.

As you can see, it gets lots of use. The red line goes to the bow of my dink which is sitting on the bow. The lines that go through the chocks and aft are secured on the aft end of the SS rail near the port steps/stbd door for quick access to the bow line when docking. The last line through the chock to stbd is a dock line to steady the bow.
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Didn't want to "out" you, buddy! Just making the point that with the right setup, it's easier to push the one button to anchor than drift or tie the boat to something solid.
Here is a photo showing us docked, you anchored in the channel, and the other boat idling/diddling in the channel awaiting for the bridge to lift. There was a sailboat ahead of us docked against a tugboat waiting also.

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I have been anchoring quite a lot whilst using the boat, although I have not been using it as much as I would like! I will mostly anchor out next year when I head up along the Great Barrier Reef.

Recently I was in Deanbilla Bay, where the bottom is mud but with large amounts of sea grass. My Davis 100# kept dragging so eventually I had to change anchors. The Davis sits nicely on the bow, quite elegantly, but needed to be manually moved forward about 6" before it would deploy.

So I swapped to my alloy Sarca. It bit instantly into the seagrass covered bottom and did not move an inch. Subsequently I've used it in sandy bottoms where it also works very well. So I will leave it in place as my primary anchor, despite it sticking out and looking pretty ugly in the bow roller. One advantage - it deploys from either helm without needing any manual assistance. So very easy to use.
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Hey Al. . . Did you add that Sampson Post?? Looks like it could easily hold the Queen Mary!!
Nah, that's a large cleat really - this is what you call a Sampson post…

And Brian..your Excel isn't ugly..my anchor is what you might all ugly, but when it comes to anchors I like ugly…means no compromise for looks over function. But yes, you won't regret getting that Excel out there. I bet you never put the other one back on.
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