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Old 11-02-2014, 06:01 AM   #21
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And Brian..your Excel isn't ugly..my anchor is what you might call ugly, ...
I dunno.... seems to me that the uglier an anchor is, the better it works.

So we're up here in Seoul, Peter, and guess what? It's like 50 degrees f. and raining and windy. Walked around town today and had to put on a jacket. After being in the oven down there in Brisbane, this is just like being at home.

Brisbane's nice, though. Had dinner one night at the Jellyfish on the river. Best scallops I've ever had. I hope things don't get crazy when they have that economic summit or whatever it is that's coming up.
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:12 AM   #22
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I was alluding to the observation that some boats appear to be using lunch hooks for their main anchor.
How do you know what's at the end of the rode in that photo?
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:17 AM   #23
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All you guys that talk about deploying the anchor from the helm. Do you not have safety lanyards on your anchors? Or is this a thing reserved for the planing hull set.

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The manufacturer of my windlass (Lewmar) strongly warns to secure the anchor when not deployed and to secure the rode when anchored to take the strain off the windlass.

That pretty much eliminates deploying from the helm without first making a trip to the bow. At that point, since my wife is on board, she takes the helm and I operate the windlass with the bow switches that I installed.
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:53 AM   #24
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We do as much Ron. Can't relate to push button anchoring at the helm.

Ron wrote re a pic of a boat w only nylon line showing as anchor rode;

"How do you know what's at the end of the rode in that photo?"

Indeed it could be a long rode w a big high performance anchor at the other end buried deep in a bottom marked "good holding".
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Old 11-02-2014, 11:06 AM   #25
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I have been anchoring quite a lot whilst using the boat, although I have not been using it as much as I would like! I will mostly anchor out next year when I head up along the Great Barrier Reef.

Recently I was in Deanbilla Bay, where the bottom is mud but with large amounts of sea grass. My Davis 100# kept dragging so eventually I had to change anchors. The Davis sits nicely on the bow, quite elegantly, but needed to be manually moved forward about 6" before it would deploy.

So I swapped to my alloy Sarca. It bit instantly into the seagrass covered bottom and did not move an inch. Subsequently I've used it in sandy bottoms where it also works very well. So I will leave it in place as my primary anchor, despite it sticking out and looking pretty ugly in the bow roller. One advantage - it deploys from either helm without needing any manual assistance. So very easy to use.
My Sarca alloy Ex-Cel tucks nicely under the bow pulpit. It is yet to be tested, but hope to do some anchor dunking in the next couple of weeks.
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Old 11-02-2014, 12:50 PM   #26
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"Lunch hook?" Lunch hook too me is 3:1 of chain out vrs 6:1 for overnight.

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That's pretty much my definition of "lunch hook"... merely short scope as little as 2:1 chain if calm. Think about it, the objective is to stop for a little while and have as little time devoted to anchor deployment and retrieval as possible. Smaller anchor needs more scope, makes no sense to me unless you have no windlass and a rope rode.
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How do you know what's at the end of the rode in that photo?
I have no idea. The boat was anchored for a short time. ... My point was that most boats I see anchored are there for a temporary meal or fishing stop where a heavy-duty anchor probably isn't necessary and thus could make due with an otherwise-considered-inadequate anchor instead of a sufficient-for-all-conditions anchor.
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That's pretty much my definition of "lunch hook"... merely short scope as little as 2:1 chain if calm. Think about it, the objective is to stop for a little while and have as little time devoted to anchor deployment and retrieval as possible. Smaller anchor needs more scope, makes no sense to me unless you have no windlass and a rope rode.

..Which is where I think the whole concept came from...back in the days of no or manual windlasses. You might see the explanation in an old Chapman's...but it's rare to see one discussed in an anchoring article today...at least not in the ones I have been glancing over.

Hard to imagine a cruiser with a nice setup resorting to anything else that's probably more work.
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Old 11-02-2014, 02:38 PM   #29
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I have no idea. The boat was anchored for a short time. ... My point was that most boats I see anchored are there for a temporary meal or fishing stop where a heavy-duty anchor probably isn't necessary and thus could make due with an otherwise-considered-inadequate anchor instead of a sufficient-for-all-conditions anchor.
I have a "spare" anchor and rode, only because it came with the boat. It's a Fortress, I don't know what size but most likely what they recommend for the boat. It's stored away and difficult to get out because of the chain.

The anchor I use is a 33 lb Lewmar claw with 30' of 5/16" G4 chain and 150' of rope. We seldom anchor for a short time, it's usually for overnight in areas with reversing tidal currents. It hasn't failed me yet.

Seeing my boat anchored, nobody could know anything about the ground tackle except for the scope.
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Old 11-02-2014, 03:13 PM   #30
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Ditto w me Ron. 30' boat, 33lb Lewmar. I have half as much chain though and over twice as much line. Where you boat though probably only requires 150'.

I just put the Lewmar on Willy thinking it would be more suited to my new boating waters. Been a long time since I've used a Claw as a primary anchor. My last Claw sometimes had "false settings". Would start to hook up and then release only to hook up again and then take a good hard set. Once or twice it did that on our 2003 trip to Juneau. Otherwise it was just like any other anchor that worked except it was handy on the bow roller and inexpensive .. quite.

Hauling the rest of the rode (435' of 5/8" Brait) down to the boat today. Launch Tuesday.
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