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Old 06-23-2014, 08:24 PM   #41
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The "wrong way" but effective pilothouse windows of the Coot are consistent with its workboat heritage. (Its bow wave imitates that of tugboats.)
Mark......that's a "wannabe" bow wave if I ever saw one. Some of todays recreational trawler boats are designed to make the wave look like that, but with closer inspection, one can see that it is simply "faux froth", a catchy new handle for a false tug-boat bow wave

With that handled, here's another smooth example of Pilothouse tech.
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:30 PM   #42
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Mark......that's a "wannabe" bow wave if I ever saw one. Some of todays recreational trawler boats are designed to make the wave look like that, but with closer inspection, one can see that it is simply "faux froth", a catchy new handle for a false tug-boat bow wave

With that handled, here's another smooth example of Pilothouse tech.
Instead of trying to imitate a workboat-like wave, I'd bet the designer wanted to follow a successful design.

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http://www.dieselducks.com/Coot.html
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:43 PM   #43
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Did you have your sense of humor surgically removed or did it just fall off?
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Old 06-23-2014, 08:54 PM   #44
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No. But some (other) people take this stuff seriously.

I'm fairly certain that healhustler's bow wave is similar to mine.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:00 PM   #45
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Was I supposed to have me bow wave inspected during the survey?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:10 PM   #46
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Was I supposed to have me bow wave inspected during the survey?
Not if is factory installed. But the aftermarket ones do seem to sag and yellow with age.

West Marine sells them. Recommend getting one size up than listed for your model.

Oh, and don't be a noob be sure to deflate it or remove it altogether when at anchor.

Be careful you don't cross thread it when putting it back on.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:26 PM   #47
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Not if is factory installed. But the aftermarket ones do seem to sag and yellow with age.

West Marine sells them. Recommend getting one size up than listed for your model.

Oh, and don't be a noob be sure to deflate it or remove it altogether when at anchor.

Be careful you don't cross thread it when putting it back on.
How will I know if mine was factory-installed?

Will defender have a better price on them?

Where do I store it when I am anchored? Do I need a hoist for it? Do I keep it on the cabin top or on the transom?

I have a galley up and no flybridge. Do I need to order a special one for this (most practical and seaworthy) configuration?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:28 PM   #48
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Oh and my windows are vertical. Not raked forward or aft. I hope this will not be a problem.
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:41 PM   #49
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Looks like opinions haven't changed since the last time we did fwd slant windows (FSW). And I'm not insulting anybody for akwards sloped windows. Just telling you your'e stylish isn't really much of an insult.

The only thing that is a positive for FSW is that they are a bit more free of rain on the glass but wipers basically eliminates that. Too much sun? Put a visor over the windows that's much lighter than for FSW.

It's like a 4wd SUV police car. Probably makes sense in Alaska but elsewhere if you want to carry people of chase speeding cars you'd be better off w a good high performance sedan. And thankfully most are but there are some that say they may need to chase a criminal over a pasture ect. Yea once a year?

The FSW are in the minority here on TF and most look fine. Most TF boats are aft raked (normal) and most look fine.

Here's an N46 w FSW. Tastefully done and the boat looks fine. Or even great but if the windows were slanted 30 or 45 degrees it would look silly.
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:43 AM   #50
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Tugboat bow wave = "Bone in teeth". "Shes running with a bone in her teeth".
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Look at the thread on Fantail boats.

Quite a few very nice looking boats and none of them has fwd raked pilothouse windows. They are all older boats before the fwd raked windows became a fad.
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Old 06-24-2014, 08:56 AM   #52
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Bill Bishop showed this one last week:

"Doctors have announced the first successful transplant of a boat onto a mobile home in a delicate three week operation. The lead surgeon said, 'I'm pleased the surgery went well, but we're still having some difficulties deleting the thousands of Walmart waypoints from the chart plotter.'"
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:01 PM   #53
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Here's one of my favorite examples that happens also to be the winner of the wannabe window (forward raked windows) contest. It'd be hard to believe that the rate of roll on this boat would be similar to what it was originally.
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:10 PM   #54
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Here's an N46 w FSW. Tastefully done and the boat looks fine. Or even great but if the windows were slanted 30 or 45 degrees it would look silly.
Gotta agree with that one. I'd be a shame to change it. I think the 46 is one of the most balanced styles out there. Some of the ones I've seen cruising have so much stuff on them that it takes away from the line of the boat. If I had one, I'd probably be over-conscious about that...you know, wanting to preserve the looks of the boat.
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Old 06-24-2014, 10:36 PM   #55
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Here's one of my favorite examples that happens also to be the winner of the wannabe window (forward raked windows) contest. It'd be hard to believe that the rate of roll on this boat would be similar to what it was originally.
LOL! If you had not promised all photos would be untouched, I would have convinced myself that you had Photoshopped that one! Amazing!!
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:27 PM   #56
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LOL! If you had not promised all photos would be untouched, I would have convinced myself that you had Photoshopped that one! Amazing!!
Yeah, it's hard to resist that. Still, there's more than enough of the real ones out there to keep me honest. Here's another one that was published only months ago here on TF, but a definite qualifier. Gulfstar.
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That looks to me like a factory original Schucker. They did not make many.
The boat in NOLA is a Lancer. They also built powersailers up to 65'.
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The boat in NOLA is a Lancer. They also built powersailers up to 65'.
You're right. I'd forgotten about the Lancers and their unusual high speed motorsailors, I mean powersailers.
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Looks like opinions haven't changed since the last time we did fwd slant windows (FSW). And I'm not insulting anybody for akwards sloped windows. Just telling you your'e stylish isn't really much of an insult.

The only thing that is a positive for FSW is that they are a bit more free of rain on the glass but wipers basically eliminates that. Too much sun? Put a visor over the windows that's much lighter than for FSW.

It's like a 4wd SUV police car. Probably makes sense in Alaska but elsewhere if you want to carry people of chase speeding cars you'd be better off w a good high performance sedan. And thankfully most are but there are some that say they may need to chase a criminal over a pasture ect. Yea once a year?

The FSW are in the minority here on TF and most look fine. Most TF boats are aft raked (normal) and most look fine.

Here's an N46 w FSW. Tastefully done and the boat looks fine. Or even great but if the windows were slanted 30 or 45 degrees it would look silly.
This one looks perfect to me the rest, not so much........
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