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Old 06-23-2014, 11:33 AM   #21
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They are all disgusting.

No NA would have any part of any of them. The creators of these pilothouses think the modern trawler look is cool, vogue and style wise desirable.

Some boats are timeless. Others go out of style quickly. The guys that created these "Aftermarket Pilothouses" want their style to scream "NOW".

Fwd swept pilothouse windows (wannabe as Marin says) are just style imitating the north sea trawler. There are some advantages but their existence on a pleasure boat is for the cool trawler look ... just plain vogue- ness. And a high wheelhouse on a small boat is at least a bit stupid.

I feel like an Iraqi stomp'in on a pic of Saddam Hussein.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:46 AM   #22
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They are all disgusting.

No NA would have any part of any of them. The creators of these pilothouses think the modern trawler look is cool, vogue and style wise desirable.

Some boats are timeless. Others go out of style quickly. The guys that created these "Aftermarket Pilothouses" want their style to scream "NOW".

Fwd swept pilothouse windows (wannabe as Marin says) are just style imitating the north sea trawler. There are some advantages but their existence on a pleasure boat is for the cool trawler look ... just plain vogue- ness. And a high wheelhouse on a small boat is at least a bit stupid.

I feel like an Iraqi stomp'in on a pic of Saddam Hussein.
Can you tell us how you really feel Eric? I tend to agree with your post above.....
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:53 AM   #23
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Fwd swept pilothouse windows (wannabe as Marin says) are just style imitating the north sea trawler. There are some advantages but their existence on a pleasure boat is for the cool trawler look ... just plain vogue- ness. And a high wheelhouse on a small boat is at least a bit stupid.
Hey now! Gonna offend some of the Nordy boys.

My forward raked windows help with the flow of the whole look of the boat, plus it allows me to call her a "trawler". Plus they help get the sun out of my eyes, or so they say.

Aft raked windows are just appeasing to me (Why we got the 47 & not the 50), but to each and their own.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:57 AM   #24
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Hey now! Gonna offend some of the Nordy boys.

My forward raked windows help with the flow of the whole look of the boat, plus it allows me to call her a "trawler". Plus they help get the sun out of my eyes, or so they say.

Aft raked windows are just appeasing to me (Why we got the 47 & not the 50), but to each and their own.
The big difference is your vessel's pilothouse is not an add on or modification to an existing hull to change the look of your vessel.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:45 PM   #25
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The second photo, the Uniflite Salty Dog with pilot house, was not an after market addition. That was standard. I believe Eric, Manyboats, was with the company at the time. It looks like one of his designs. Who knows what plans he has for a pilot house on Willy.
Yes, now that you mention it, I can see Eric's fine eye of line in that vessel. I think I've got some interior photos of that one that also show his hand at work. Oh yeah, here we go...
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An uncles Salty Dog enroute to get the hardtop fitted.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:59 PM   #28
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Yes, now that you mention it, I can see Eric's fine eye of line in that vessel. I think I've got some interior photos of that one that also show his hand at work. Oh yeah, here we go...
The tile work is such a nice touch.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:10 PM   #29
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At a New Orleans marina a couple of years ago. I believe someone was living aboard, even equipped with a dog, or cat, ladder. Probably a "Katrina boat"
That looks to me like a factory original Schucker. They did not make many.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:17 PM   #30
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Fly-that one looks a bit like Mark put a flybridge on the Coot. Has he been holding out on us?
Yes, that's a "Healhustler Original" from a previously humorous thread. I just couldn't resist dusting it off and putting it out there for an encore laugh.
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Yuck. Never seen a salty dog with some north sea aborted pilothouse look. Never want to either.

I always like the Salty Dog because of its ability to be such an open cockpit boat. To me, that was the whole point of that boat and why the few that have them, love them. They are fantastic six pack boats.
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:46 PM   #32
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Slightly awkward, but functional. I think it was a factory 'remodel'. Significantly reduced in price since I was looking to purchase it. It also has a traditional aft cockpit.

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Old 06-23-2014, 06:01 PM   #33
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Don't see quick/easy access to decks from pilothouse on some of those boats. More than two steps is too many (for me.)
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:47 PM   #34
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Fwd swept pilothouse windows (wannabe as Marin says) are just style imitating the north sea trawler. There are some advantages but their existence on a pleasure boat is for the cool trawler look ... just plain vogue- ness.
Speaking as someone who has owned and cruised trawlers with both forward and aft-raked PH windows, I feel compelled to point out for newcomers to this issue that the advantages of forward-sloped windows are numerous and well documented - electronics over head, lack of glare, reduced heat load, protection from much rain and spray, much better visibility of objects and people in the water (that's why they are REQUIRED on North Sea rescue boats). They also provide substantial protection of one of most leak-prone areas on a boat.

The advantage of aft-raked windows is that Marin and (apparently) manyboats think they look boatier, or something like that.

Edit: I just thought of one disadvantage of forward-raked windows - every couple of months I have to dust them on the inside.
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IMO aft raked windows are ugly as hell. JMHOP.
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Forward leaning pilothouse windows equals function over fashion.

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Old 06-23-2014, 07:18 PM   #37
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Er, I'd say function and fashion - but I can certainly agree that fashion is subjective!
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Er, I'd say function and fashion - but I can certainly agree that fashion is subjective!
The "wrong way" but effective pilothouse windows of the Coot are consistent with its workboat heritage. (Its bow wave imitates that of tugboats.)





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Old 06-23-2014, 07:33 PM   #39
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This was done to a Davis International...something Taiwanese Type tricabin. Looks even worse in real life. And yes it was designed by a Naval Architect.
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