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Old 07-23-2013, 07:55 PM   #1
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SF Bay overnight anchorage

Hello forum,

I'm looking for a beautiful calm spot to spend one night on the hook ideally near Angel Island/Marin.

This is my first overnight on the Bay (I'm berthed in Alameda). What regulations/laws am I up against? Seems perfectly logical to me to anchor near Angel Island near raccoon straight.

Any information regarding a short overnight trip would be useful.

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http://www.boatingsf.com/places/anchorages

Guessing these are all legal places to spend an evening on the hook?
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Excellent! Thank you.
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I've never been but perhaps you should try Treasure Island for your first night on anchor. Try to anchor in the Southwest corner for best protection. It's close to Alameda. Or just grab a mooring at Ayala Cove on Angel Island. China Camp on the West side of San Pablo Bay is another consideration but won't give you the flat water of TI or Ayala Cove.

Some anchor at East Garrison on Angel Island. However, it can be a bit rough due to its proximity to ship and ferry traffic.
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Treasure Island is a good idea, and is less risky compared to most locations near Raccoon Strait.

Ayala (formerly Hospital) Cove has mooring, but not anchoring. ... My earliest attempts at anchoring were during winter sailboat races where weak winds and strong adverse currents made it occasionally prudent to anchor.
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I've never been but perhaps you should try Treasure Island for your first night on anchor. Try to anchor in the Southwest corner for best protection. It's close to Alameda. Or just grab a mooring at Ayala Cove on Angel Island. China Camp on the West side of San Pablo Bay is another consideration but won't give you the flat water of TI or Ayala Cove.

Some anchor at East Garrison on Angel Island. However, it can be a bit rough due to its proximity to ship and ferry traffic.
Thank you for your insight. I researched the mooring balls at Ayala Cove and feeling pretty good about that. Plus will give me a chance to use my new mooring ball hook. Looks like a 60-foot boat can fit into outer row.
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Treasure Island is a good idea, and is less risky compared to most locations near Raccoon Strait.

Ayala (formerly Hospital) Cove has mooring, but not anchoring. ... My earliest attempts at anchoring were during winter sailboat races where weak winds and strong adverse currents made it occasionally prudent to anchor.
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At Ayala, one moors to both bow and stern mooring balls, oriented in a north-south direction, with bow pointed north. This places one broadside to the tidal currents but pointed into wakes. ... You need to pay the mooring fee on-shore. One can dinghy to the docks or temporarily dock your boat (day-use only).



The sailboat on the left isn't following potocol.
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I have to second the moorings on Angel Is I have spent many a night there and if you can tuck in close to shore you will avoids the ferry wakes and you have plenty of depth.

It will take a little bit to get used to mooring stern and bow but there are many ways to make it happen even single handed.

Nice place to hang out after the island closes and great walks very peaceful.
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At Ayala, one moors to both bow and stern mooring balls, oriented in a north-south direction, with bow pointed north. This places one broadside to the tidal currents but pointed into wakes. ... You need to pay the mooring fee on-shore. One can dinghy to the docks or temporarily dock your boat (day-use only).

The sailboat on the left isn't following potocol.
My boat is 60 feet. Any concern at that length?
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Great thread, in all my years at Alameda, I never once did any of this. I'll get up there one of these days and do some exploring.
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My boat is 60 feet. Any concern at that length?
This website says 50 feet is the maximum; however, I would contact the state park rangers on the island to get a definitive answer.

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This website says 50 feet is the maximum; however, I would contact the state park rangers on the island to get a definitive answer.

Angel Island State Park (Ayala Cove Marina) Marina in Tiburon, California | Reviews and Info
Just got off the phone with the ranger. 50 to 55 feet no problem. He said the mooring balls along the outside perimeter are the deepest, 7 to 10 feet. Getting there earlier around 4p will help secure a spot. The mooring balls are color coded. Yellow to yellow, red to red etc. Bow and stern need to be secured, with the bow facing the Richmond bridge. $30 overnight.
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Good information from the Ranger. I've noticed through the years that the distance increases between the mooring balls if there is a boat behind and a boat in front of where you want to moor. In other words, grab the mooring balls currently occupied between the stern of one boat and the bow of the other boat. Those boats pull the balls toward their boats especially at higher tides. So the distance between your chosen balls (that doesn't sound too good!) could be 75-80 feet apart.

Make sure your bow and stern lines are long enough; at least 200 feet each. That way you can double the line back to your cleats and make leaving after your stay easier...just untie one end and pull it through the mooring ball.
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Great thread, in all my years at Alameda, I never once did any of this. I'll get up there one of these days and do some exploring.
Baggiolini I am back in Monterey till next Monday night when I fly back to the boat in TN.

Let me know if you need someone to handle your lines on a bay cruise....

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Good information from the Ranger. I've noticed through the years that the distance increases between the mooring balls if there is a boat behind and a boat in front of where you want to moor. In other words, grab the mooring balls currently occupied between the stern of one boat and the bow of the other boat. Those boats pull the balls toward their boats especially at higher tides. So the distance between your chosen balls (that doesn't sound too good!) could be 75-80 feet apart.

Make sure your bow and stern lines are long enough; at least 200 feet each. That way you can double the line back to your cleats and make leaving after your stay easier...just untie one end and pull it through the mooring ball.
Great call on the length of line! I need more. As a boat warming gift I got a Robship hook and moor. Excited to use it.

http://sections.latitude38.com/news/...moor-boat-hook
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You won't always need 200 feet of line. But those times when the moorings are pulled to adjacent boats you'll be glad you have it!
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Baggiolini I am back in Monterey till next Monday night when I fly back to the boat in TN.

Let me know if you need someone to handle your lines on a bay cruise....

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Gerald, I'm on my way to Pine Moutain Lake to play some golf and won't be back until Sunday, but the following Thursday or Friday we are going around to Stillwater in Pebble Beach. So if your leaving this coming Monday, I will miss you buf if the following we could go for a ride. Btw, you owe us pictures of the new boat, friendship on the line here! Many of us dream of your boat.....send boat porn!
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especially if someone like Ray/Giggitoni assists your mooring!

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