Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #81
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,154
So for those who have travelled the west coast, weather is a big issue. So a few questions:

1. What do you use to check weather? Rely soley on NOAA brodcasts or something else.
2. What is a "go" situation for you?
3. What is a "no-go" situation for you?
4. How far out from the coast do you travel?
__________________
Advertisement

__________________
1988 M/Y Camargue Yacht Fisher
Alaskan Sea-Duction
MMSI: 338131469
Blog: http://alaskanseaduction.blogspot.com/
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 01:36 PM   #82
Member
 
SanDiegoCaptains's Avatar
 
City: San Diego
Country: USA
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 17
1
Sailing Weather - Marine Weather Forecasts for Sailors and Adventurers - PassageWeather
http://www.buoyweather.com
SailFlow
NOAA National Weather Service
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml
Grundig G3 SSB radio and IPAD for weather charts
Sat. phone text messages and SPOT Messenger

2 Vessel size?On strong boat mmmmm less then 35-40 kn. wind and 15-20 swell
3 Vessel size?
5 From 1 to 20 nm
__________________

SanDiegoCaptains is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 02:50 PM   #83
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanDiegoCaptains View Post
1
Sailing Weather - Marine Weather Forecasts for Sailors and Adventurers - PassageWeather
http://www.buoyweather.com
SailFlow
NOAA National Weather Service
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shiplocations.phtml
Grundig G3 SSB radio and IPAD for weather charts
Sat. phone text messages and SPOT Messenger

2 Vessel size?On strong boat mmmmm less then 35-40 kn. wind and 15-20 swell
3 Vessel size?
5 From 1 to 20 nm

Thanks

So vessel size: 48-60ft (Still looking)
__________________
1988 M/Y Camargue Yacht Fisher
Alaskan Sea-Duction
MMSI: 338131469
Blog: http://alaskanseaduction.blogspot.com/
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 02:57 PM   #84
Member
 
SanDiegoCaptains's Avatar
 
City: San Diego
Country: USA
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 17
62 Selene - 40 knots and 20 ft. swell
55 Selene - 35 kn. and 15 to 20

1 or 2 nm from shore and 10 nm from Columbia River, Point Conception 1 nm or less,Cape Mendocino 3 nm.
SanDiegoCaptains is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 03:56 PM   #85
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: 2011 Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,265
Guidebooks such as Charlie's Charts of the U.S. Pacific Coast are handy references and advice.
__________________
Kar-KEEN-ez Koot
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 04:18 PM   #86
Member
 
SanDiegoCaptains's Avatar
 
City: San Diego
Country: USA
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 17
3G Ipad and some good aps can help as well - weather,charts,sat. pictures,AIS,doppler radar
SanDiegoCaptains is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2013, 10:12 PM   #87
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,184
Great stuff, SDCapts! Great having you onboard and contributing.

Thanks for the info.
__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2013, 01:29 AM   #88
Guru
 
Northern Spy's Avatar
 
City: Powell River, BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,668
stormsurf has some great tools and models too.
Northern Spy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 02:10 PM   #89
Member
 
City: Gig Harbor, WA
Country: US
Vessel Name: Micki
Vessel Model: 42' Grand Banks
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction View Post
So for those who have travelled the west coast, weather is a big issue. So a few questions:

1. What do you use to check weather? Rely soley on NOAA brodcasts or something else.
2. What is a "go" situation for you?
3. What is a "no-go" situation for you?
4. How far out from the coast do you travel?
I just did that trip in a 42' trawler. Here's some of what I learned:

NOAA, the Navy site and buoy reports are good sources but not infallible.

One day, as I sat in Ft Bragg waiting for good weather, I stumbled into an old timer commercial fisherman, a been-there-forever-small-town-icon with an amazing boat and a great record of success and safety.

After we talked for an hour he looked up at the sky for about 30 seconds and told be I'd better get going to my next stop, Shelter Cove, about 60 nm north.

***Broadcast conditions were Small Craft Warning coastal, Gale Warning 10 miles out - I couldn't believe what he was suggesting***

He said if I waited for weather on a day like that I might be there forever. Watching the clouds above he liked what he saw (they weren't moving very fast); "It's a beautiful day, just go for it but remember - you can always turn around and come right back".

Despite the Small craft/ Gale warnings I followed his suggestion and left the harbor. The seas to Shelter Cove were almost glassy all the way... it was one of the nicest calmest days of the trip.

All that said; the real trick is to turn around if things do get bad. Don't wait too long to make that decision. Surfing back to the last port is a lot calmer than going up but spinning the boat around if the waves are huge is no fun at all. And obviously, don't go if the radio and your eyes agree it's just a plain bad day.

How far out is easy: Close in, period. Take a Coast Pilot with you and navigate from one point to another, including the Capes. I know that goes against popular online thought (and I can't speak to the sailors in the room) but I consider my sources very very carefully before taking advice. Staying 2 to 5 nautical mikes came from a Foss Maritime Master that's been making the trip over 30 years. He's pulled fuel barges 1.5 miles off shore to avoid rough sea. And that advice was echoed all the way home from every Coast Guard person I spoke with - including 2 offshore instructors.

Fun trip - Good Luck!
Trawler Micki is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2013, 06:00 PM   #90
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,154
Just finished the trip from SF to the Columbia River. Took me 3 days, 2 nights.

The Alaskan Sea-Duction
__________________
1988 M/Y Camargue Yacht Fisher
Alaskan Sea-Duction
MMSI: 338131469
Blog: http://alaskanseaduction.blogspot.com/
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2013, 10:44 PM   #91
Veteran Member
 
denloe1's Avatar
 
City: Portland Oregon
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Sapphire
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 46 Classic
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 95
Great thread. The amount of weather and safety data keeps growing every year. We have a couple of years to get ready for a long run South from Portland. Heading up to the San Juans this coming summer. The trick is making enough time for the weather windows while still working. The Columbia bar can be like a beautiful lake some days, or a gigantic maelstrom putting your beautiful boat into 35 degree rolls. When I finally get good weather for that Ocean run to Neah Bay, if it is nice, my GB46 cats will burn some fuel that day, and the risky miles will be put astern, quickly.
__________________
Dan Enloe
46' Grand Banks
CAT 3208 TAs
Sapphire
denloe1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-23-2013, 11:16 PM   #92
TF Site Team
 
ksanders's Avatar
 
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: LISAS WAY
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,956
Quote:
Originally Posted by denloe1 View Post
The trick is making enough time for the weather windows while still working.
You've hit the nail on the head
__________________
Kevin Sanders
Bayliner 4788
Seward, Alaska
www.mvlisasway.com
ksanders is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 06:18 PM   #93
Veteran Member
 
dirtdoc1's Avatar
 
City: Palo Alto
Country: United States
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin View Post
Years ago my wife and I and a couple of friends attended the Seattle Boats Afloat show on Lake Union.* One of the boats on display was a then-new*Nordhavn model (I don't remember which one).* When somebody remarrked at the relatively small size of the spaces in the boat, we were told that Nordhavn did/does this deliberately.*

The theory, it was explained to us, is that if you are making an ocean passage and the weather turns nasty, you don't want to be trying to make your way around in a boat with big open spaces in it.* Better to be in smaller spaces where it's easier to brace*yourself against a bulkhead or the side of a companionway or have a grabrail handy to catch yourself rather than risk taking a major tumble*across a big, open*salon or whatever.

How much of this is true or not I have*no way of knowing, but if it actually*is a design consideration of Nordhavn I can see the sense in it.*

Hi All,

I bought a NP45 and would like to take it from Washington to Mexico in February - March but was told that it's the wrong time of year to do that. So I've been reading about people who have done the trip and the time of year, what issues they had etc. etc..

Then I read your post about Nordhavn purposely keeping the interior smaller than need be and the reason for it. I don't know about that but I was told by an experienced passage-maker to get a smaller boat rather than a larger one. When I asked him why he said that there is less distance/room for you to get tossed around in. His other advice was to just do it! Go for it! Don't spend years planning and thinking about it.

Well, after reading about some of the big seas that people have run in to I am definitely reconsidering going in the winter.
__________________
Dirtdoc1
dirtdoc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 07:31 PM   #94
Guru
 
Alaskan Sea-Duction's Avatar
 
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,154
You are too late in the season. You could harbpr hop, but be prepared to stay in a port for weeks. You can get some short weather windows in April, but its better to wait until mid May, early June.
__________________
1988 M/Y Camargue Yacht Fisher
Alaskan Sea-Duction
MMSI: 338131469
Blog: http://alaskanseaduction.blogspot.com/
Alaskan Sea-Duction is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 07:46 PM   #95
Senior Member
 
tiltrider1's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 216
Your insurance company might have restrictions on time of year.
tiltrider1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 08:09 PM   #96
Senior Member
 
Budds Outlet's Avatar
 
City: South Puget Sound, WA
Country: USA
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 360
I'm glad to see this thread continued. I am considering the purchase of a boat in San Francisco and moving it up to Puget Sound. Lots of good information here.
Budds Outlet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 08:42 PM   #97
Senior Member
 
tiltrider1's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: AZZURRA
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 54
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 216
I brought my boat up from LA to Seattle last year.
tiltrider1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 08:47 PM   #98
GFC
Guru
 
GFC's Avatar
 
City: Tri Cities, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Beachcomber
Vessel Model: Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,699
Dan, a few years ago another guy and I helped take a boat from Lake Union down to Stockton.


Here's the thread that I made that recorded the trip.
Journey of a Lifetime | Club Sea Ray
__________________
Mike and Tina
Beachcomber 1995 Sea Ray 550 Sedan Bridge
GFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 09:44 PM   #99
Veteran Member
 
Sabre602's Avatar
 
City: NW Washington State
Country: United States
Vessel Name: Kingfisher
Vessel Model: BC-built 37' converted seiner/crabber
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtdoc1 View Post
...Then I read your post about Nordhavn purposely keeping the interior smaller than need be and the reason for it. I don't know about that but I was told by an experienced passage-maker to get a smaller boat rather than a larger one. When I asked him why he said that there is less distance/room for you to get tossed around in....
The cruising sailboat crowd has know this forever. Vast open main saloons and galleys invite falls. Falls lead to injuries. Injuries at sea are bad.

"One hand for yourself, one for the ship." Kinda hard to do on some of the more polished-looking yachts out there with big, wide living spaces and a near total absence of strong handholds.

I looked at a stout older custom trawler yacht not long ago that had strong handrails running fore-and-aft down the overheads and continuing out into the rear cockpit. Cabin too wide to grab hold? Just reach up. It was brilliant.
__________________
Anson & Donna

Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible. ~The Dalai Lama
Sabre602 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2017, 11:47 PM   #100
Veteran Member
 
dirtdoc1's Avatar
 
City: Palo Alto
Country: United States
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiltrider1 View Post
I brought my boat up from LA to Seattle last year.
What time of year did you do it? How was the trip? Did you run straight through or marina hop?
__________________

__________________
Dirtdoc1
dirtdoc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I see there's a deal finally brewing on this Seattle boat. healhustler General Discussion 11 03-06-2012 08:19 PM
Spending boat units in Seattle bobofthenorth General Discussion 12 12-28-2010 10:34 AM
Seattle Boat Show Chris Foster Cruising and Events - West Coast 0 01-14-2010 08:17 PM
Seattle Boat and Afloat show Phil Fill Cruising and Events - West Coast 4 08-02-2009 08:57 AM
Los Angeles, CA KMA Fuel Check 0 07-20-2008 07:38 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012