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Old 09-14-2010, 11:07 AM   #41
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

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My understanding of the tax situation in Washington is this----

The best way to determine what your possible tax liabilities are is to go to the Washington State Board of Equalization's web site and do some research.* Even better is to submit your questions to them and request a binding tax ruling** They can also be reached at 800 647 7706* It's very important to understand the rules, as a simple mistake can cost up to 8.5% of the value of the boat.* It's MY understanding that a boat owned by an individual and registered anywhere but Washington may be brought in to the state for sixty days tax free.* Prior to the sixty first day, you may purchase a permit allowing an additional sixty days tax free, and again prior to the permit expiring, you may purchase one more permit for another sixty days.* After that you must leave the state for at least six months.* A new law allows you to extend this to a period of one year, but at the end of the year, you must leave the state for a period of not less than three years.* Should you register the boat to a corporation (usually done to avoid taxes)* Washington see's this for what it usually is, and restricts you to only 60 days in state.* Should you make a single mistake, like failing to renew your permit and letting it expire for even one day, you become liable for the entire tax bill with penalties and interest tacked on too.* Should you happen to own any type of property in Washington, ignore the above, and pay the tax the first day you arrive as they consider you a resident. Even if you live elsewhere, they can consider you a "Duel Resident" of two states at one time.* My experience in this comes from managing several very expensive boats for out of state owners, and being responsible for following all the rules.* I'm not a tax lawyer, so this is simply my experience, and a binding tax ruling is your best defence against a huge and unexpected tax bill. Or, you could go a few miles over the border to Canada and avoid the whole problem, although they have a different set of rules, they are far more relaxed.* Know before you go............Arctic Traveller Marine Services
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:37 PM   #42
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

Canada is a very viable option. There are lots of marinas on the Fraser River and in Vancouver itself although I have no idea how expensive they are or how long a waiting period might be. There are some very nice marinas on Vancouver Island around Victoria and Sidney and between them.

However.... ArcticTraveler's advice to do some research applies to keeping a boat in Canada, too. We've met or know a high number of boaters who are Canadian citizens living in Canada but who keep their boats in the US (Point Robinson, Blaine, and Bellingham are three of the favored marinas for this) because there are tax and fee advantages to them. The disadvantage to them, they have told us, is that they cannot take their boats into Canada because the moment they cross the border they are legally required to pay all the fees and taxes they've been avoiding by keeping the boat south of the border. So they boat in the San Juans.

I don't know what the requirements are for a US citizen keeping a boat in Canada--- we've never met anyone who does this--- but it's something worth investigating.
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I've done this also with various yachts I run, and found it pretty easy to keep out of trouble.* As long as you are actively using the boat (don't use the words "storage or lay-up") things should be fine for at least a year, but as Marin said, do your own research before you commit yourself.* ...........Arctic Traveller Marine Services

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Old 01-26-2011, 03:51 PM   #44
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

I am very curious to hear how this ended?

BB: did you buy the boat?

general questions: what makes a boat more passageway'ish compared to coastal?

and also, how do you make the way to the south pacific in a boat like this one? i am thinking fuel burn/distance etc?

my one comment to making a trip like this would be that if you hired a skipper to navigate the boat for you, i would recommend making the trip with him/her. it is a great learning experience, you will learn more about the boat and the waters than many boaters learn in a lifetime of boating.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:26 PM   #45
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

It has not ended yet, and won't for a long time, I hope!* It has just begun.* We did buy the boat, a Nordhavn 46.* She is in Long Beach right now, but soon will head to Mexico to avoid California sales tax.* Where to go from there, and when, is still an open discussion.* I am still lobbying for heading North and exploring the Pacific Norhwest, but we might play in Mexico a bit first.

The boat is designed for long ocean voyages, and others like this have actually done cirucumnavigations.

We are not ready to head out into the wide Pacific yet, that is fur shur.

Still would appreciate any comments, thoughts, or suggestions!
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:54 AM   #46
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

When you get to Thorne Bay please drop in. Thorne Bay is 45mi. NW of Ketchikan.
The Nordhavn 46 is my #1 dreamboat.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:04 PM   #47
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Thanks for the invite.* Hope we get that far North!* And I hope we have heat in the boat by then, too.* Since she was built for Souther California, the original owner did not see the need for it.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:25 PM   #48
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

we are in long beach (alamitos bay marina).
had a look at that 46' Nordhavn, my oh my.. nice.
and with that range i see you can cruise far.

my accountant did the Mexico thing with his boat, guess there is a good deal of savings on the CA sales tax.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:28 PM   #49
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Well, it sounds like we are neighbors! ( I mean when we are there. At the moment we are just wishing we were. We are awaiting the next ice storm here in Maryland)
Where are you and what is your boat's name? *How long have you been there? *We are thinking about trying to get back to Alamitos Marina after our sojourn in Mexico. *Do you know anyone who might be interested in subletting his slip in about 6 months?
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:25 PM   #50
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

i am guessing you need a 40 or 45' slip? will def ask around and let you know..
and quite often i see postings on the posting wall at the marina office, that is also how we found our slip last summer. we are in basin 6 across from the Tantalum restaurant.
we would love to come wish you bon voyage so hit me me up when/before you are ready to head south.
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:42 AM   #51
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

I apologize for not responding sooner. I somehow missed that you had sent a notel.
We are currently in a 45' slip, and it is pretty snug.* I am sure there is no way we could manage a 40 foot one.* Maybe even a 50!*

Ron will be on the boat next week, arriving Tuesday. I will be in Baltimore, I am sad to say.

Are you Norwegian?

What is your boat's name?
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Old 02-09-2011, 01:38 PM   #52
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RE: From Los Angeles to Seattle by boat?

I am from Denmark.
Our boat is named Freedom, we are in a 35' slip which is a tight fit but workable.
The so cal weather has been nice lately, low 70's sometimes even 80, Ron will enjoy.
Keep us updated on your progress.
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Old 02-27-2011, 01:39 PM   #53
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Damn... I've been away too long.* Gratz on your new N46!* Before we sold our Vantare (which was docked in Cabrillo Marina in San Pedro), we actually had an order in for the N60.* Unfortunately, a medical condition and business downturn forced us to opt out of the purchase and sell our boat.

Not sure how much shakedown time you've had on the N46, but 2 of the best trips we took on the Vantare were long weekends in San Diego and a week or so in Ensenada.* Just exit LB harbor and point the boat toward the outer oil rigs, and enjoy the trip.* You'll get plenty of blue water for the boat to show her stuff, and you get both a downhill and uphill ride to evaluate her.

Ensenada is a great trip, with nice dock accommodations at the Coral Hotel and Marina, just north of downtown Ensenada.* It's secure, the docks are nice, the hotel food is good, and it's only about a 10 minute cab ride to downtown, if you want/need to go.* This is a good trip is you'll need to take on fuel, since fuel is still cheaper in MX than the US, and the hotel has its own nice fuel dock.

You clear Customs in SD on the trip north, and you can overnight on the Customs dock if you need some rest... which you probably will after beating north.* They don't call it the Baja Bash for nothing

Best of luck and enjoy the boat.* If you've any questions about SoCal cruising, don't hesitate to drop a line.
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Hello everybody, I am a new member of Trawler Forum. I have purchased a 42 ft. trawler in San Leandro California and would like to have the boat transported by freighter or vessel designed to transport boats on a submersable deck. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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It will be a lot cheaper I think to have it trucked up. That's what we did in 1998 with the GB36 we bought in Alameda. We used Associated Boat Transport. They are arguably the best marine trucking outfit on the west coast although they cover the whole country. http://www.associatedboat.com/

The cost at the time was about $4,000. The trip took three days.

They did say that the GB36 is the largest of the GB models that can be trucked without removing the flying bridge, at least for the route they used with our boat, but if you're interested I would talk directly to them about this.

They preferred to take the boat to Tacoma as they said there are some bridge clearances that can be iffy north of Tacoma. We had the boat taken to a yard there, had some work done on it, and then ran it up to Bellingham on its own bottom.
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After having my boat shipped from China to Oakland, I doubt shipping from the Bay Area is a good idea. My shipping agent said that from after shipping the Coot (because they ended up losing money although paid the price of a median-cost automobile), they'd only arrange shipping to Long Beach or Seattle. Could be a matter of the unions in the Bay Area, but regardless, the cost is quite high. Yes, go my truck.

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Why not fill it with fuel, make it ready and take off North? Hire a delivery skipper if you are not comfortable doing it yourself
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Why not fill it with fuel, make it ready and take off North? Hire a delivery skipper if you are not comfortable doing it yourself

It would be too easy to drive the boat yourself, learning the boats systems and having a good time along the way.

The first boat I brought home to Alaska back in 2003 I'd been on twice. Once to look at it, once for the survey. Bought a buddy an airplane ticket and we flew to Seattle. Got a cab/van stopped at the store and bought some grub and took off for Alaska some 1500 NM away. I had some tools, and some spare parts, and exactly two seasons of boating under my belt.

The second boat I brought home to Alaska I had a major refit done on, so I actually spent a week on the boat checking her out, and learning the systems. The next spring had a pallett of stuff shipped to the boat, arrived with my adult son, went to the grocery store, bought some grub and headed for Alaska. This time the boat was much better equipped, both from my week on board and all the other "boat stuff" I had shipped to it.

I would NEVER consider trucking my boat somewhere that I could drive her to. Bringing a boat home is a learning adventure. Its something to enjoy.
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It would be too easy to drive the boat yourself, learning the boats systems and having a good time along the way.

The first boat I brought home to Alaska back in 2003 I'd been on twice. Once to look at it, once for the survey. Bought a buddy an airplane ticket and we flew to Seattle. Got a cab/van stopped at the store and bought some grub and took off for Alaska some 1500 NM away. I had some tools, and some spare parts, and exactly two seasons of boating under my belt.

The second boat I brought home to Alaska I had a major refit done on, so I actually spent a week on the boat checking her out, and learning the systems. The next spring had a pallett of stuff shipped to the boat, arrived with my adult son, went to the grocery store, bought some grub and headed for Alaska. This time the boat was much better equipped, both from my week on board and all the other "boat stuff" I had shipped to it.

I would NEVER consider trucking my boat somewhere that I could drive her to. Bringing a boat home is a learning adventure. Its something to enjoy.

Couldn't agree more. With today's electronics and the overwhelming amount of information available at hour fingertips, there's no real reason to be so fearful of long coastal transits.

Sure- things may go wrong, just as they could in your favorite cruising grounds. Deal with it!

I routinely took 23' single engined fishing boats 50+ miles offshore in search of tuna- taking a 46' trawler should not pose too much challenge. We plan to take our boat to Mexice and beyond I the coming years- it'll be her 3rd trip down the coast.
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