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Old 06-13-2013, 12:25 PM   #21
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Jamie Mac, it looks like your boat has a little modification with a hard chine and made in spray damper.

Here's a link that should put you in a lobster boat during a race. Notice the dog on the engine box.

Portland Lobster Boat Races Diesel FFA 2010 - YouTube
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:57 PM   #22
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Here's a link that should put you in a lobster boat during a race. Notice the dog on the engine box.
Great video, Don! I really enjoyed it. (3X)
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Old 06-13-2013, 04:13 PM   #23
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It is great fun to watch the lobsterboat races. The spectator fleet (mostly lobsterboats) usually starts out the day with more alcohol than diesel fuel. By the end of the day the alcohol is mostly gone.

It is not so comfortable, however, to watch the races from an old, narrow, rolly, round bilged, wooden sedan power cruiser. Some of those racing boats throw a huge wake at speed.
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Old 06-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #24
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Eric, did your Dad add the spray rails. I'm sure they were needed. A true lobster hull is a wet riding boat.
No I don't think so. I'nm guessing the builder suggested them and Dad said sure.
I don't think the lobster boat is inherently wet. They probably RUN wet as they are a faster type hull and hardly anybody runs them at hull speed. My Willard is very dry w no spray controls at all but we run one knot BELOW hull speed.
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Old 06-13-2013, 11:18 PM   #25
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Possum was very wet until I put on the spray rails. She would throw water straight up and if the wind was the least bit on the beam, in came the water. The spray rails helped some.

Besides racing, commercial fishermen have docking contests. Go to YouTube and search for "docking contests". It's very exciting.
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Every Downeast style boat I have run (maybe over a 100 now) are very wet...even with "spray deflectors".

It's just they way they run at their cruise speed...the deflected water leaves the hull at such an angle from just aft of the bow that any cross wind over 10 knots tends to blow it back aboard. At 15 knots crosswind...you would think you were a sub trying to surface.

Look at HopCar's avatar. That curling wave is what blows right back aboard.

Maybe not all of them are....but it's a rare one that isn't very wet (thus all the chine spray deflectors... a big aftermarket item for boats like Shamrocks and a lot of the Downeast kit boats).
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My Willard is very dry w no spray controls at all but we run one knot BELOW hull speed.
I agree as just about any boat that runs below hull speed is a dry boat. Even with spray rails, my boat is wet. Boats like Flyright's and others, however, with considerably more flare to the bow are much drier. There have been some great "wet" boats throughout history, however. "Moppie" comes to mind. (Wet as can be.)
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Old 06-14-2013, 12:19 PM   #28
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Walt I think most of the spray is generated at or just below the chine. Look at the older boats like CCs of the 50s and Huckins. They had concave bottoms between the chines and the keel. Rising water was "thrown" more horizontal than w a convex bottom. These hull shapes produced a finer spray than convex or more vertical hulls like my Willy. At the other extreme you have a very slow hull w vertical sides and the "spray" from waves rises up much less disturbed and comes aboard as heavy slop .... the opposite of spray.

But there's little to stop or even slow down rising water near the bow of a lobsterboat. A very large spray rail may be best for them.

Even extreme flare like the Carolina types known for that won't make a dry boat. Straight flare like what you'd find on a plywood boat would be more likely to control spray.
Weight has a lot to do w spray too. Very light boats generate little and heavy boats throw water everywhere.
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Old 06-14-2013, 02:54 PM   #29
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The OP pictures are all Prince Edward Island style of lobster boats. The Cape Island style is significantly different (my favorite). Cape Islands have the raised shear/break are usually wider beam and are designed to fish in WINTER wx on the east coast of canada. Many of these are sent to New England. Certainly not as fast as the Maine built boats, but tough , no non- sense fish boats.
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People can try to explain the "engineering of it all" even if it's not true...all you have to do is look at HopCar's avatar to see what happens in the typical downeast hull and spray. Doesn't matter if it's light as a feather or heavy as a dreadnaught. If it's that shape and speed and crosswnd...wet boat.

If you run a downeast hull either really slow or really fast..the spray's usually not an issue...but at it's typical cruis'n speed....add a little cross wind component and yep...you have a wet boat.
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Old 06-16-2013, 07:44 AM   #34
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I've run lots of these hulls. They do tend to run wet, but spray strakes really help.
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:09 AM   #35
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Re post 31

How do they moor/anchor those boats so close together?

If the rocks/beach wasn't so close on their side they could all swing together.

If they all had stern anchors out they'd surely be tangling anchors.
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Here is a bigger picture of Possum so you can see how the water comes up the hull. I'm probably running 14 to 15 knots in smooth water and the spray rails are working. It gets wet when I do this in a chop.
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Your boat looks to be FG. Is it "skeg built" or "built down"?
Are you on "show your girl's bottom"?
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Hi Eric, I think you'd call her built down. The hull and skeg are all one piece.
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Top pic is a canadian Cape Island style with out the step shearline. "Dog and I" is the classic raised shear/deck Cape Island boat. There are hundreds of these boats in Massachusetts and the rest of New england.

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These boats swing on single point moorings. Working harbors in New England are crowded (obviously) . Many places have moorings passed down through generations. big tidal ranges(6-10') keep everyone swinging the same way.
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They all look nice in pictures, but the smell from those boats would gag a maggot.
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