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Old 06-09-2013, 07:28 PM   #21
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Scott:

Stick your toe into that "algae rich glacial runoff" and you will change your mind. those are bits of ice that haven't yet melted! OK, in between the ice bits there may be some algae.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:43 PM   #22
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Scott: Stick your toe into that "algae rich glacial runoff" and you will change your mind. those are bits of ice that haven't yet melted! OK, in between the ice bits there may be some algae.
Yes, I suppose we should show them what it really looks like, you have to haul your boats behind snow machines (this is actually a picture from when I was about 15 and lived in the arctic):
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Old 06-10-2013, 02:21 AM   #23
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This thread has me recalling some of the reasons I keep going back to Von Donop.
One dawn, as I was giving the dog a shore run, I approached what appeared from the boat to be a beachable part of the shoreline, dog on the bow, and as I approached, I saw a family of Mergansers paddling quietly along close to shore. So as not to disturb them, I stopped in my approach. As I watched, I became aware of another watcher, on shore, where a Lynx was waiting for breakfast as the Mergansers approached her location (I assume all predator cats are female). I chose to allow the Mergansers to live another day, so disturbed the Lynx, who ran off into the bush. I took the dog to a different part of the shoreline.
More than once we've had deer overseeing our dropping the anchor (hopefully not too disdainfully!). One afternoon's entertainment was watching a bald eagle pursue a seagull for about ten minutes before finally breaking off. All in absolute silence.
Of course listening to the mournful howls of the wolves at night can be either beautiful or unsettling.

Seeing a Lynx - that would have been interesting!
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I hope that when you are in VD, you get up to the lakes. I discovered two canoes, complete with fishing gear and paddles, on my walks up to Robertson lake and Wylie Lake. I did borrow the one on Wylie to explore the far side. Both qualify as good reasons to make VD a stop on a circumnavigation of Cortez.
Never been up to the lakes, although we've done various versions of the hike over to Squirrel Cove. Will have to give the lakes a try - hopefully the canoes will be waiting!
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Of course listening to the mournful howls of the wolves at night can be either beautiful or unsettling.
I've only been to your part of the world twice but I remember every second of it. To hear wolves howling at night.....I'd love that. I also fell in love with Campbell River and the swirling water between CR and Quadra Island. We docked the boat (57 Nordhavn) at April Point. What a place!
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I know there are a number of list members who have transited the rapids along the 'back' way north. Yuculta, Gillard, Dent and Arran by name.

Perhaps someone would like to explain some of the tricks about getting through this maze of rapids in a slow boat. And maybe mention some of the 'better' anchorages to take in the event slack is missed at one of the constrictions,
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:53 PM   #27
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I know there are a number of list members who have transited the rapids along the 'back' way north. Yuculta, Gillard, Dent and Arran by name.

Perhaps someone would like to explain some of the tricks about getting through this maze of rapids in a slow boat. And maybe mention some of the 'better' anchorages to take in the event slack is missed at one of the constrictions,
This is my rule - Go with the current up to an hour before or after slack and when you get further north, you can use 2 hours for Green and Whirlpool if you choose that way. You can stay at Big Bay before going through Gillard and Dent if your timing is off and after you get through Dent, we normally stop at Shoal Bay. Nice people. Always go with the current if you have a slow boat, which I do.

I normally start at Squirrel Cove before going through Yuculta, Gillard and Dent and then spend the night at Shoal Bay. If you are early at Yuculta just hug the shore and the current will be less.

Where are you at? I'm in Bellingham. We forgot the passports so have to wait until tomorrow to get them and tomorrow is suppose to have some bad weather so I hope we can continue on Friday. Then its Point Roberts, False Cheek to clear customs, Gibsons, Smugglers Cove, Powell River, a few stops in Desolation and then on to points north.

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Old 06-20-2013, 02:39 AM   #28
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I can't offer any prior experience as this will also be my first time through the Yuculta-Dent complex. As I'm sure you are aware, Dent turns 15-25 minutes before Gillard and Yuculta some minutes after, so there is no way heading north/west to hit slack at all areas (assuming you don't want to stop at Big Bay). Most everything I read suggests hitting Dent at turn-to-ebb even if that means fighting the last of the flood from Harbott point through Yuculta and Gillard. You can then ride the subsequent ebb current along Cordero channel. Judging from your chart it looks like you have already done the same research I have regarding the use of back-eddies against the flood. Obviously, smaller (neap) exchanges will offer somewhat lesser currents.

Not sure if it helps but here's my plan for July 14th. Tidal exchanges are favorable for a morning transit with turn-to-ebb at Dent at 9:11, 25 minutes before slack at Gillard, 30 minutes before Yuculta. I aim to be at Harbott Point (south tip of Stuart) at 8:15 am. I will fight the flood current, using the back-eddies through Yuculta, hit Gillard Passage with maybe 45 minutes remaining before slack there and bully my way through. With the neap tides I shouldn't face anything too strong (and, if needed, I can double my 8 knot cruising speed). Then, hopefully, I will go through Dent dead on slack and wondering what all the fuss is about. "Devils hole? What Devils hole?"

No plans for Arran rapids but I understand they are strictly slack only for us slowbies. Picture below is the Sechelt rapids (taken from the shore!).
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I would recommend getting Local Knowledge: A Skipper's Reference : Tacoma To Ketchikan Amazon.com: Local Knowledge: A Skipper's Reference : Tacoma To Ketchikan (Fine Edge Nautical Knowledge) (9781932310115): Kevin Monahan: Books

I can't recommend this book enough. He has detailed recommendations for how
to transit the rapids around Johnstone Straight, including calculations on
exactly how to calculate departure times and slack water for each set of
rapids. When I took Island Eagle north from Campbell River to Alert Bay for
the first time (summer 2007) I followed his calculations to the minute. We
had a completely uneventful passage, leaving Campbell River about 0700 and
arriving at Alert Bay about 1530. Coming back we overnighted in Kelsey Bay
and again used his calculations to ensure we transited at the best water.

If you have the time, you can arrange your trip so that you do it on a day
when the slack water is in the early morning (in my case it was a fluke).
Also, the marina in Campbell River is very convenient, you can take a
shopping card from the big-box stores right to your boat.

Here's another link to the book: Local Knowledge
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:10 AM   #30
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I would recommend getting Local Knowledge: A Skipper's Reference : Tacoma To Ketchikan Amazon.com: Local Knowledge: A Skipper's Reference : Tacoma To Ketchikan (Fine Edge Nautical Knowledge) (9781932310115): Kevin Monahan: Books

I can't recommend this book enough. He has detailed recommendations for how
to transit the rapids around Johnstone Straight, including calculations on
exactly how to calculate departure times and slack water for each set of
rapids. When I took Island Eagle north from Campbell River to Alert Bay for
the first time (summer 2007) I followed his calculations to the minute. We
had a completely uneventful passage, leaving Campbell River about 0700 and
arriving at Alert Bay about 1530. Coming back we overnighted in Kelsey Bay
and again used his calculations to ensure we transited at the best water.

If you have the time, you can arrange your trip so that you do it on a day
when the slack water is in the early morning (in my case it was a fluke).
Also, the marina in Campbell River is very convenient, you can take a
shopping card from the big-box stores right to your boat.

Here's another link to the book: Local Knowledge
It is a good reference. Most marine stores and book sellers have it on the shelf in the area.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:22 PM   #31
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For predicted tides and slacks this is a good publication that I use.
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